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Old 06-02-2017 | 03:31 PM
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Well it looks like the union is predicting bankruptcy now! That's a bad sign, because that is not a negotiating tactic. It would only weaken your hand at getting a contract.
So I guess the hits keep on coming. Not a "if" to go but when!
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Old 06-02-2017 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pirates cove
Well it looks like the union is predicting bankruptcy now! That's a bad sign, because that is not a negotiating tactic. It would only weaken your hand at getting a contract.
So I guess the hits keep on coming. Not a "if" to go but when!
I wouldn't exactly say that union email predicted bankruptcy as much as it questioned if that was a possibility Atlas may have in mind. One I highly doubt as the company is still turning profits regardless of business debts. That is like saying you are going to declare bankruptcy, even if you have a well paying job, simply because you have a mortgage on your home. Until your paycheck becomes less than your bills, the show goes on.
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Old 06-02-2017 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojouo
I wouldn't exactly say that union email predicted bankruptcy as much as it questioned if that was a possibility Atlas may have in mind. One I highly doubt as the company is still turning profits regardless of business debts. That is like saying you are going to declare bankruptcy, even if you have a well paying job, simply because you have a mortgage on your home. Until your paycheck becomes less than your bills, the show goes on.
Or AAWH could declare bankruptcy as a mechanism to force an amalgamated SAI contract upon Atlas Air. That's probably what 1224 is worried about them doing.
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Old 06-04-2017 | 12:30 AM
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Anyone know how long it would take a new hire to hold Miami?
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Old 06-04-2017 | 02:05 AM
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Miami. Around the year. Albeit you would be junior for a while.

But first- you would need to get through 400 training. Failures are definitely on the rise.

I'd apply at envoy. Miami base, more money, and a flow to a real airline that pays their pilots.
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Old 06-04-2017 | 09:48 AM
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Anyone going to be in the June 12th 767 class?
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Old 06-04-2017 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
Miami. Around the year. Albeit you would be junior for a while.

But first- you would need to get through 400 training. Failures are definitely on the rise.

I'd apply at envoy. Miami base, more money, and a flow to a real airline that pays their pilots.
So everyone has to start in ANC? Im typed on the -400.
I want to avoid the WO carriers.
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Old 06-04-2017 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent
Or AAWH could declare bankruptcy as a mechanism to force an amalgamated SAI contract upon Atlas Air. That's probably what 1224 is worried about them doing.
Of course with such tactics, even if management wins they still lose - as ANY path that leads to another ****ty amalgamated contract (and/or blocking the CBA contractual ability of the pilots to not cross legal picket lines - as they are also attempting to do) will only result in the current, record setting attrition turning into an even bigger (and possibly unrecoverable) stampede toward the exits.

There is a reason that we now have 18 year captains bailing. Caveat emptor.
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Old 06-04-2017 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kerizbro
So everyone has to start in ANC? Im typed on the -400.
I want to avoid the WO carriers.
Odds are you'd end up with a 767 type and a cvg base, amigo.
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Old 06-04-2017 | 11:15 AM
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Or worse, a 77 or 73 type. Careful not to step in Atlas' bull£hit.
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