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Old 06-06-2017, 02:02 PM
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whats wrong with that. 250 hr FO's are flying a340's in europe.
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Old 06-06-2017, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger View Post
Atlas is literally hiring 2500 hr TT regional FOs without turbine PIC. Unbelievable.
3,100 TT, 1,200 Turbine and most of it is PIC....But no call. Who are these 2,500 hour guys you speak of?
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Old 06-06-2017, 03:47 PM
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3,100 TT, 1,200 Turbine and most of it is PIC....But no call. Who are these 2,500 hour guys you speak of?
We had a Riddle SkyWest FO just recently go to Atlas with 2500 hrs TT. I know of one 2500 hr SkyWest FO that just received the pre-interview exam.
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Old 06-06-2017, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot View Post
whats wrong with that. 250 hr FO's are flying a340's in europe.
Nothing. It just was mindboggling that summer last year they were holding out for high-time applicants, now the standards have dropped far below that.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:55 AM
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Been searching this thread for awhile now, but have heard/read some conflicting info, can someone please clarify a few questions for me?

1: what are some actual 1, 2, and 3 year total pay numbers?

2: does Atlas pay for your flight to and from your home to your DOM/aircraft pickup location, or just from your DOM to the aircraft?

3: what aircraft/base would be best for a Boise ID commuter?

4: if you still work at Atlas what is keeping you there? What are the positives, most of these threads go pretty negative so what positive things keep you at Atlas?


Thanks for your time
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Old 06-07-2017, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot View Post
whats wrong with that. 250 hr FO's are flying a340's in europe.
We are not set up for that kind of operation. You have to already know what you are doing here. We fly anywhere in the world at a 24 hour notice at all hours of the day and night.

This is not a beginners outfit. The problems have already manifested, and it is getting worse.
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Old 06-07-2017, 07:30 AM
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I just got the invite to take the test today. Been applying for the last 3-4 years. RJ captain here. I'll definitely go through the process but the negatives concern me. I use to work for a management that was constantly trying to bust the pilots and it was a whole another level of stress.


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Old 06-07-2017, 07:43 AM
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I just got the invite to take the test today. Been applying for the last 3-4 years. RJ captain here. I'll definitely go through the process but the negatives concern me. I use to work for a management that was constantly trying to bust the pilots and it was a whole another level of stress.


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The majority of regional guys I fly with say that Atlas pays a bit more and they get more days off in a row here.

It is a marginal improvement for them. The problem is a few years into it when the newness wears off and reality sets in...

You are grossly underpaid for the responsibility level. We still have to fight for catering and linens 20 plus years into this thing...
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohlsan View Post
Been searching this thread for awhile now, but have heard/read some conflicting info, can someone please clarify a few questions for me?

1: what are some actual 1, 2, and 3 year total pay numbers?

2: does Atlas pay for your flight to and from your home to your DOM/aircraft pickup location, or just from your DOM to the aircraft?

3: what aircraft/base would be best for a Boise ID commuter?

4: if you still work at Atlas what is keeping you there? What are the positives, most of these threads go pretty negative so what positive things keep you at Atlas?


Thanks for your time
1. Year 1 - $50K Year 2 - $85K Year 3 - $90K
2. Atlas pays for your airline ticket to your base and from your base home. You pay income taxes on the cost of the ticket so it is NOT free. Also, travel picks what tickets meet the company's needs. Expect to be forced to leave your home around 24 hours (sometimes more) early to be in place for your first flight. Your pay starts when you show for your trip, NOT when you leave your home on your company paid for trip so add 2 days to the 17 you owe the company.
3. PAE which is near SEA. Then probably LAX followed by ANC or ORD. You'd be able to hold all of those quickly.
4. Solely the fact that I have not been offered a job by Delta, American, United, UPS, FedEx, or Southwest. Things are negative because we are paid 50-60% of industry standard, our retirement is 33% of industry standard (less when you consider how little we're paid), and we work 5-7 more days a month than industry standard. Currently 18 year 747 Captains are leaving for other airlines. That'd put those Captains in the top 5-10% of the list. We are probably at least 3 years from a new contract and many of us suspect they'll drive us into bankruptcy to force us into a contract that's as bad or worse. There are currently no negotiations scheduled and we're 9 months past our amendable date and 18 months past the contract openers we'd agreed upon in the last contract. This is a miserable place to work. If you decide to come here then do so with an immediate exit strategy. I wouldn't go to Southern under any circumstances and they will try to con you into doing it.

Positives for Atlas?.... A 767 or 747 type might fill a hole in your resume that gets you hired elsewhere IF you pass the type despite high failure rates.
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohlsan View Post
Been searching this thread for awhile now, but have heard/read some conflicting info, can someone please clarify a few questions for me?

1: what are some actual 1, 2, and 3 year total pay numbers?

2: does Atlas pay for your flight to and from your home to your DOM/aircraft pickup location, or just from your DOM to the aircraft?

3: what aircraft/base would be best for a Boise ID commuter?

4: if you still work at Atlas what is keeping you there? What are the positives, most of these threads go pretty negative so what positive things keep you at Atlas?


Thanks for your time
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