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Old 02-15-2017 | 06:06 PM
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Many Atlas pilots are predicting that a crash is on the horizon. The hiring minimums are at 1500 hours and an ATP. Upgrade is now under three years on the 767. What happens when you take a Captain with less than two years at the company, who was hired at minimum hours and place him with a new hire First Officer with minimum hours? Our complex operating environment simply doesn't support this hiring practice.

The blood will be on the FAA and Atlas Executive's hands....

Completely preventable and sad.
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Old 02-15-2017 | 06:45 PM
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Not to say we don't have a lot of really capable competent pilots but it just takes once. Also not to say that a 767 or 747 takes extraordinary skill to fly, they don't, but the nature of the operation is challenging in that we get so few cycles, it is really hard to become and maintain proficient skill. I average 24 landings per year. The wrong combination just once is all it takes, I won't be surprised when it happens. We have been really really lucky a couple times recently and the 'put bodies in the seats' mentality is undeniably an increased risk.
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Old 02-15-2017 | 09:33 PM
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Florida West closing by end of this month.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 03:52 AM
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Funny how JD never said what is happening to the certificate.

Are they turning it in or are they going to hold on to it by putting a couple of managers on it
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Old 02-16-2017 | 06:15 AM
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A certificate doesn't live in limbo. You used to be able to put the cert in a drawer and pull it out again later. Now they'd to keep the CP, DO, DM, CI and DS. And if there's no activity for a period of time, 6 months rings a bell but I don't recall for sure, the Feds will ask for it back.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by CargoPirate
Funny how JD never said what is happening to the certificate.

Are they turning it in or are they going to hold on to it by putting a couple of managers on it

Probably turn it in and write the whole thing off. They had a few low-ball offers from what I've heard. Good riddance......I don't think anyone here wants that certificate hanging around.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
Many Atlas pilots are predicting that a crash is on the horizon.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Davetastic
irresponsible
Yes. Management's reckless behavior that's lead to sending out an army of 1500 hour new hires to Africa is very irresponsible.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
Many Atlas pilots are predicting that a crash is on the horizon. The hiring minimums are at 1500 hours and an ATP. Upgrade is now under three years on the 767. What happens when you take a Captain with less than two years at the company, who was hired at minimum hours and place him with a new hire First Officer with minimum hours? Our complex operating environment simply doesn't support this hiring practice.

The blood will be on the FAA and Atlas Executive's hands....

Completely preventable and sad.
I couldn't agree more. I've been in this industry for over 20 years. This is one of the most demanding jobs I've had. Not only because of long legs and remote locations all over the world, which many you do not see repetitively. But like others have said, you get very little hands on time each month of flying, actual landing and taking off.

The lower experience levels coming in, and high going out is a recipe for disaster. We've already had several hard landings last year.
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Old 02-16-2017 | 08:14 AM
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Re: FL West Certificate.... They put out a press release last year announcing the certificate was sold. It didn't say who it was sold to...
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