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06-09-2017 | 06:02 PM
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And have the ATSG carriers, Kalitta, SAI and whoever else is out there come out of the woodwork to take your flying at a lower cost.
06-09-2017 | 07:03 PM
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We don't need names and social security numbers. Just helpful info so anyone headed there can avoid whatever pitfalls they're falling into!
06-09-2017 | 09:29 PM
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+1. Challenging training is one thing... But some make it sound like the training department is working against its new hires. More info would be greatly appreciated!
06-09-2017 | 09:34 PM
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This is just plain silly. I never sided with the company and I never said they couldn't afford it. Read the whole post. A doubling of the current average salary is simply unrealistic no matter how much we stomp our feet, kick and scream or act like fools on social media. Just ain't gonna happen. You are naive to believe we will get everything that we want and they have to just figure it out. Life, negotiations and business just simply don't work that way. Is that the way you handle your personal finances? "Hey honey, buy what you want, when the bills come in I'll just figure it out..." I doubt it. So what makes you believe that's the way they will handle their finances? Moreover the "pass it on to the customer" thing sounds really good except that the current customers are all already signed to long term deals, cuz that's the business model, and certainly won't renegotiate their deals simply because the company signed a deal with us. Again I ask, would you? No you wouldn't. If you contracted for a service and the service provider came to you and asked you to renegotiate the contract you would say what about the rate and the contract we already have? What's the point of the contract? Again, the naivety befuddles me. I am not a company sympathizer, what I am is a realist and in the real world it doesn't work the way you wish it would. In the end, we will get what we negotiate, which is whatever they are willing to pay given any pressure/leverage we can exert, nothing more and nothing less.
FedEx: $168 x 74 x 12 = $149,000
Same damn job. Yes we can get double, and we deserve it.
Also, I wouldn't put much stock in the guys running their mouths about training dept failures. 747 training here is tough, and yes a failure here and there happens. But it's not widespread and they are not out to get you.
06-10-2017 | 01:02 AM
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The training department has made major improvements over the last year. At this point, I'm starting to think it's not the training department as much as it's a result of a non-competitive contract.
06-10-2017 | 03:40 AM
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From: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
The checkride is old school and basic. They train you to handle emergencies in the pattern at either JFK (747) or SEA (767).
I haven't heard of any recent uptick in busts, but typically on the 747, busts are usually the result of a pod scrape or getting slow on the 2-engine approach, followed by a stall/spin.
I haven't heard of any recent uptick in busts, but typically on the 747, busts are usually the result of a pod scrape or getting slow on the 2-engine approach, followed by a stall/spin.
06-10-2017 | 03:48 AM
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Agree with Whiplash, Training has gotten better as of late (747 side - 767 side hasn't been an issue). What is changing is some of the applicants and experience levels. The overwhelming majority of new hires are still either ex-mil or regional guys, but we get the occasional hire who may not have a wealth of experience, which can add to the challenge. I'm not aware of any stories where training was working against a new hire - everything i've heard has been pilots who fell short of the standard. Training has been good with extra sims/help to those who were struggling, sometimes it's just too far a leap.
06-10-2017 | 04:21 AM
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It's the responsibility of our "businessmen" to be just that.
You don't see southwest on the news like ghetto ass spirit airlines. Yet their managers have figured out a way to run a profitable company, and pay the pilots.
If AAWW can't figure this out- then there won't be an airline to run for our "businessmen"
By next year the legacies will hire even more. The allure of 17 day trips around the world for pennies, have faded.
06-10-2017 | 05:45 AM
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The checkride is old school and basic. They train you to handle emergencies in the pattern at either JFK (747) or SEA (767).
I haven't heard of any recent uptick in busts, but typically on the 747, busts are usually the result of a pod scrape or getting slow on the 2-engine approach, followed by a stall/spin.
I haven't heard of any recent uptick in busts, but typically on the 747, busts are usually the result of a pod scrape or getting slow on the 2-engine approach, followed by a stall/spin.
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