Originally Posted by Ohlsan

Been searching this thread for awhile now, but have heard/read some conflicting info, can someone please clarify a few questions for me?

1: what are some actual 1, 2, and 3 year total pay numbers?

2: does Atlas pay for your flight to and from your home to your DOM/aircraft pickup location, or just from your DOM to the aircraft?

3: what aircraft/base would be best for a Boise ID commuter?

4: if you still work at Atlas what is keeping you there? What are the positives, most of these threads go pretty negative so what positive things keep you at Atlas?


Thanks for your time

Originally Posted by Duesenflieger

Atlas is literally hiring 2500 hr TT regional FOs without turbine PIC. Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged

We are not set up for that kind of operation. You have to already know what you are doing here. We fly anywhere in the world at a 24 hour notice at all hours of the day and night.

This is not a beginners outfit. The problems have already manifested, and it is getting worse.

Originally Posted by sherpster

I applied to Atlas over a year ago. Got the test invite the other day. After watching the Cavs lose last night and after 6 beers with friends at the bar, I took the online assessment. I finished the test in 21 minutes. I passed because it says 65 is passing (I didn't get much higher than that). I bet the recruiters are like WTF. If I get a call for an interview then you know Atlas is scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Originally Posted by Omnipotent

Atlas guys..... You are losing your magic touch with UPS. Only four Atlas dudes in the June 5 newhire class.

Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

1. Year 1 - $50K Year 2 - $85K Year 3 - $90K
2. Atlas pays for your airline ticket to your base and from your base home. You pay income taxes on the cost of the ticket so it is NOT free. Also, travel picks what tickets meet the company's needs. Expect to be forced to leave your home around 24 hours (sometimes more) early to be in place for your first flight. Your pay starts when you show for your trip, NOT when you leave your home on your company paid for trip so add 2 days to the 17 you owe the company.
3. PAE which is near SEA. Then probably LAX followed by ANC or ORD. You'd be able to hold all of those quickly.
4. Solely the fact that I have not been offered a job by Delta, American, United, UPS, FedEx, or Southwest. Things are negative because we are paid 50-60% of industry standard, our retirement is 33% of industry standard (less when you consider how little we're paid), and we work 5-7 more days a month than industry standard. Currently 18 year 747 Captains are leaving for other airlines. That'd put those Captains in the top 5-10% of the list. We are probably at least 3 years from a new contract and many of us suspect they'll drive us into bankruptcy to force us into a contract that's as bad or worse. There are currently no negotiations scheduled and we're 9 months past our amendable date and 18 months past the contract openers we'd agreed upon in the last contract. This is a miserable place to work. If you decide to come here then do so with an immediate exit strategy. I wouldn't go to Southern under any circumstances and they will try to con you into doing it.

Positives for Atlas?.... A 767 or 747 type might fill a hole in your resume that gets you hired elsewhere IF you pass the type despite high failure rates.

Originally Posted by rmr1992

"many of us suspect they'll drive us into bankruptcy to force us into a contract that's as bad or worse"

This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous. While I agree they have zero desire to pay us what we are worth, driving the company to bankruptcy just to avoid paying us is an absurd statement. The losses incurred in such a maneuver would far and away outstrip any "savings" from a concessionary contract. Think about it. This company generates just under 2 billion in revenues and turns a smallish approx average profit of 74 million (average the last 5 years,taken from the most recent annual report). With 1800 pilots, an average 40,000 per person raise is approx 72 million (which still leaves 2 mil in profit). Moreover the company has capital reinvested, on average, almost half a billion per year the last 4 years... therefore the $ exist to still grow the business, show a profit and pay us what we are worth. Thus the aforementioned statement really Makes no sense. Nobody takes a profitable company and drives it into the dirt just to avoid paying the employees. Let's leave the hyperbole to the gridlock and stupidity of the polarized politicians in Washington, they are way better at it anyway.