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Old 06-07-2017, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohlsan View Post
Been searching this thread for awhile now, but have heard/read some conflicting info, can someone please clarify a few questions for me?

1: what are some actual 1, 2, and 3 year total pay numbers?

2: does Atlas pay for your flight to and from your home to your DOM/aircraft pickup location, or just from your DOM to the aircraft?

3: what aircraft/base would be best for a Boise ID commuter?

4: if you still work at Atlas what is keeping you there? What are the positives, most of these threads go pretty negative so what positive things keep you at Atlas?


Thanks for your time
I'm currently a 747 FO on 3rd year pay. Last year I grossed $85000. 767 pilots get 16% less than 747 pilots. Atlas will pay to get you to your base or your aircraft pickup location. The caveat is that they will get you there way early so you have proper rest, you aren't paid until the trip starts, and the cost of the flight and hotel in base are treated as imputed income so approximately 30% of what the company paid for travel and hotel will be taken out of your paycheck as taxes. LAX or PAE would probably be closest for a Boise commuter. Not sure what nonstops you have out of there. Only thing keeping me here right now is that FedEx hasn't offered to interview me.
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Old 06-07-2017, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger View Post
Atlas is literally hiring 2500 hr TT regional FOs without turbine PIC. Unbelievable.
Some 2000+TT, some without PIC, some without intntl experience, some without jet experience, some never above 18,000', and some with all of the above...
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Old 06-07-2017, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
We are not set up for that kind of operation. You have to already know what you are doing here. We fly anywhere in the world at a 24 hour notice at all hours of the day and night.

This is not a beginners outfit. The problems have already manifested, and it is getting worse.
The hardest thing I think:
You have no intntl experience (like a regional pilot). You get the 767 and mostly just fly domestic hub turns. Then you upgrade to 747 Capt. So, you have no intntl, no 747 experience. You will probably only get 4 legs of OE, with possibly no Atlantic crossing legs, probably no legs in Africa or South Asia and/or China, and then you are Intntl 747 capt. Not an easy transition.
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Old 06-08-2017, 04:43 AM
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Would the last one out please shut down the APU?
- Thank you, the managment.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:13 AM
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I applied to Atlas over a year ago. Got the test invite the other day. After watching the Cavs lose last night and after 6 beers with friends at the bar, I took the online assessment. I finished the test in 21 minutes. I passed because it says 65 is passing (I didn't get much higher than that). I bet the recruiters are like WTF. If I get a call for an interview then you know Atlas is scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sherpster View Post
I applied to Atlas over a year ago. Got the test invite the other day. After watching the Cavs lose last night and after 6 beers with friends at the bar, I took the online assessment. I finished the test in 21 minutes. I passed because it says 65 is passing (I didn't get much higher than that). I bet the recruiters are like WTF. If I get a call for an interview then you know Atlas is scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:41 AM
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Atlas guys..... You are losing your magic touch with UPS. Only four Atlas dudes in the June 5 newhire class.
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Old 06-08-2017, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
Atlas guys..... You are losing your magic touch with UPS. Only four Atlas dudes in the June 5 newhire class.
4/19 is 21%.

I think that's a pretty average statistic for a class. Somewhere between 20-25%.
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
1. Year 1 - $50K Year 2 - $85K Year 3 - $90K
2. Atlas pays for your airline ticket to your base and from your base home. You pay income taxes on the cost of the ticket so it is NOT free. Also, travel picks what tickets meet the company's needs. Expect to be forced to leave your home around 24 hours (sometimes more) early to be in place for your first flight. Your pay starts when you show for your trip, NOT when you leave your home on your company paid for trip so add 2 days to the 17 you owe the company.
3. PAE which is near SEA. Then probably LAX followed by ANC or ORD. You'd be able to hold all of those quickly.
4. Solely the fact that I have not been offered a job by Delta, American, United, UPS, FedEx, or Southwest. Things are negative because we are paid 50-60% of industry standard, our retirement is 33% of industry standard (less when you consider how little we're paid), and we work 5-7 more days a month than industry standard. Currently 18 year 747 Captains are leaving for other airlines. That'd put those Captains in the top 5-10% of the list. We are probably at least 3 years from a new contract and many of us suspect they'll drive us into bankruptcy to force us into a contract that's as bad or worse. There are currently no negotiations scheduled and we're 9 months past our amendable date and 18 months past the contract openers we'd agreed upon in the last contract. This is a miserable place to work. If you decide to come here then do so with an immediate exit strategy. I wouldn't go to Southern under any circumstances and they will try to con you into doing it.

Positives for Atlas?.... A 767 or 747 type might fill a hole in your resume that gets you hired elsewhere IF you pass the type despite high failure rates.
"many of us suspect they'll drive us into bankruptcy to force us into a contract that's as bad or worse"

This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous. While I agree they have zero desire to pay us what we are worth, driving the company to bankruptcy just to avoid paying us is an absurd statement. The losses incurred in such a maneuver would far and away outstrip any "savings" from a concessionary contract. Think about it. This company generates just under 2 billion in revenues and turns a smallish approx average profit of 74 million (average the last 5 years,taken from the most recent annual report). With 1800 pilots, an average 40,000 per person raise is approx 72 million (which still leaves 2 mil in profit). Moreover the company has capital reinvested, on average, almost half a billion per year the last 4 years... therefore the $ exist to still grow the business, show a profit and pay us what we are worth. Thus the aforementioned statement really Makes no sense. Nobody takes a profitable company and drives it into the dirt just to avoid paying the employees. Let's leave the hyperbole to the gridlock and stupidity of the polarized politicians in Washington, they are way better at it anyway.
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Old 06-08-2017, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rmr1992 View Post
"many of us suspect they'll drive us into bankruptcy to force us into a contract that's as bad or worse"

This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous. While I agree they have zero desire to pay us what we are worth, driving the company to bankruptcy just to avoid paying us is an absurd statement. The losses incurred in such a maneuver would far and away outstrip any "savings" from a concessionary contract. Think about it. This company generates just under 2 billion in revenues and turns a smallish approx average profit of 74 million (average the last 5 years,taken from the most recent annual report). With 1800 pilots, an average 40,000 per person raise is approx 72 million (which still leaves 2 mil in profit). Moreover the company has capital reinvested, on average, almost half a billion per year the last 4 years... therefore the $ exist to still grow the business, show a profit and pay us what we are worth. Thus the aforementioned statement really Makes no sense. Nobody takes a profitable company and drives it into the dirt just to avoid paying the employees. Let's leave the hyperbole to the gridlock and stupidity of the polarized politicians in Washington, they are way better at it anyway.
I think that the intent of where this message about "bankruptcy" originated from was not to suggest that the managers would rather bankrupt us than pay us, but rather that their actions could potentially bankrupt the company if they do not get their act together soon and stop the bleeding that is pilots leaving at an alarming and unprecedented rate.

Which is still very far fetched and a very high level of rhetoric, IMO. But there is no question we have stunted our growth due to that.

To anyone reading these boards, why you would turn to it for reliable information about what this place is like is beyond me. You get the 2% of the group that is most ****ed off and come here to vent and that's about it.
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