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Old 05-09-2017, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sandstorm View Post
At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old man. ... even though I'm not. ... this used to be called paying your dues. Only it was for $15 an hour flying a 1900 with no flight director for 6-10 legs a day. That is what it means to be fed up and broken.

At the same time, I certainly don't blame you guys for taking advantage of the opportunities that are available today. Just be aware of what you guys are getting into.
Fair enough but I have more than paid my dues in aviation (done all of the above you mentioned) and I to want a better job and QOL.

Im under no illusion that there is a lot wrong at Atlas at present but there is a lot wrong with aviation worldwide...Period!!!

I can think of so many unhappy pilot groups here and abroad that it makes my head spin. In saying that one has to take an opportunity when presented with it.

Hopefully the CBA is negotiated in good faith over the next 12 months but I certainly wont sit in the cockpit *****ing and moaning about it annoying every other Atlas pilot as I was fully aware of what I got myself into.

The situation is what it is but we still need jobs and money to support our families.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Egg320 View Post
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Hopefully the CBA is negotiated in good faith over the next 12 months but I certainly wont sit in the cockpit *****ing and moaning about it annoying every other Atlas pilot as I was fully aware of what I got myself into.
No offense, but you don't appear to know what you're getting into if you're hoping the CBA is negotiated in good faith in the next 12 months. Atlas is currently suing the pilot group to prevent this exact thing. There will be no negotiations or a vote on CBA if they win that lawsuit. Good luck in your decision, but keep researching. Flying here is fun, but you will find yourself *****ing in the cockpit after the 500th CBA violation you're a part of and another exec bonus! It's a completely different world than 117 passenger flying. What would you do if we never got a contact, you don't get hired anywhere else, and you're gone 18+ days a month texting the wife from Niger under this CBA forever? If you're happy with that than come on over.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CandlerKid View Post
No offense, but you don't appear to know what you're getting into if you're hoping the CBA is negotiated in good faith in the next 12 months. Atlas is currently suing the pilot group to prevent this exact thing. There will be no negotiations or a vote on CBA if they win that lawsuit. Good luck in your decision, but keep researching. Flying here is fun, but you will find yourself *****ing in the cockpit after the 500th CBA violation you're a part of and another exec bonus! It's a completely different world than 117 passenger flying. What would you do if we never got a contact, you don't get hired anywhere else, and you're gone 18+ days a month texting the wife from Niger under this CBA forever? If you're happy with that than come on over.
CandlerKid, no offence taken. You know what you maybe absolutely right, maybe I dont know what I am getting myself into and I certainly wont argue with the current Atlas pilot group over the CBA, you know a lot more about it than I do.

The 12 months I mentioned was just a bit of positive thinking, maybe it is only wishful thinking but we all have to hope it will happen sooner or later.

After 2 years say, if I was completedly ****ed Off and ready to explode I probably would leave. I would alsways be able to get a job elsewhere, the regionals for example plus airlines abroad, as would most of us.

Sure not ideal but it is what it is. As for not being able to get a job elsewhere well then I would seriously consider leaving the industry. My wife works, we are starting a small business all so and I have a 4 year IT degree with experience.

There is always something we can all do. If I find myself in that above situation you mentioned I will just walk, go fly King Airs, medivac, corporate, go into IT again etc... plenty of options.

Im going in with my eyes open and if in 2 years it gets progressively worse then I will re-evaluate and decide then. Like I said earlier, aviation worldwide is up the creek without a paddle with big issues everywhere so sitting back waiting for things to happen and for aviation to come right so to speak is a fools errand.

The only thing left is to give it a go and see what happens, cant really do more than that.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:47 AM
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Good luck in training and focus on the task at hand while in Miami. Just trying to let you know the realities of this job. Beers on me when you hit the line!
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Old 05-09-2017, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CandlerKid View Post
Good luck in training and focus on the task at hand while in Miami. Just trying to let you know the realities of this job. Beers on me when you hit the line!
Thanks bud, look forward to it!!
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Old 05-09-2017, 02:15 PM
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I interviewed a while back, got into the pool, waiting on a class. Is it just me or did we hardly do any of the paperwork? Like driving records, pria, etc? Did I miss something or did we not have to do all that normal formality paperwork?
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Old 05-09-2017, 11:44 PM
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Egg320 I think you need to take a minute and adjust your attitude toward this job. An attitude of "I've paid my dues in aviation" et cetera isn't going to score you points in training nor when flying in Africa.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:02 AM
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What is the schedule and credit per month like at atlas? im deciding between atlas and kalitta
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:56 AM
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What is the schedule and credit per month like at atlas? im deciding between atlas and kalitta
Read this thread. It's all in there.
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Old 05-10-2017, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Shibuya View Post
Egg320 I think you need to take a minute and adjust your attitude toward this job. An attitude of "I've paid my dues in aviation" et cetera isn't going to score you points in training nor when flying in Africa.
I have 2000 charter twin turbine hours of flying in Africa, thanks for the heads up though.

Please stop telling my what dues I need to still pay!!
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