Originally Posted by JG4245

I have an interview coming up with Atlas in a few weeks. To give a little background I am a regional FO living in base and bidding senior enough to get the days off I want. However, I am currently still 2 years away from upgrade. I have gotten pretty comfortable with where I am at and have mixed feelings from the people at Atlas I have talked to. Granted I may not even get the offer once I interview, I wanted to try and gather some more information before going in.

I live about an hour and a half from CVG so the 767 is very appealing to me. The HR person told me on the phone that getting assigned an airplane is a total mixed bag. She said plan to go to ANC on the 747 and if I get the 767 then even better (I appreciated her honesty). Can anyone give me an idea of the likely hood of getting the 767?

I was also told that the schedule is 17on/14off but the company can extend you up to 3 days (which she made sound very common). She went on to explain that "other" schedules were available once I was senior enough to bid for them. How likely is a 7on/7off one day on the 767? If I was single I would probably really enjoy the 17/14 schedule but with a young family having something shorter eventually is really ideal.

Training pay as I understand is $1600 a month as well as per diem. Is it still fair to plan 4 months at this pay?


Thanks a lot for any information you can give me!

Originally Posted by Filipinoflyer

I was lucky enough to have a chat with one of atlas' pilots, and he said atlas is putting up a new pay scale soon. Is it true?

Originally Posted by Filipinoflyer

I was lucky enough to have a chat with one of atlas' pilots, and he said atlas is putting up a new pay scale soon. Is it true?

Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

......that may include an amalgamated contract that merges the worst of Southern and the worst of Atlas with a pay rate that's $5 an hour more than Kalitta.....

Originally Posted by Davetastic

This statement is totally and completely without merit and factual data. Did you even read the framework agreement? I am not saying that the company will or won't comply with this agreement, because they certainly have the propensity to change, but currently, the interest arbitration clause specifically says the opposite of what you have written. While I agree with you that it will take a while.....probably a long while to get a CBA, there is no current precedent in this environment that would support your claim in which an arbitrator would have the ammunition to support such a decision.

Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

There's language at the end of the framework agreement that makes that portion not binding in court. Effectively the company is unlikely to honor that language if they get their way and win the law suit. That law suit is going to be appealed by the loser and is highly unlikely to be resolved until 2018, so real negotiations with a clear definition of leverage won't be likely until very late in 2018 or 2019. What I presented was a worst case scenario unlike a straight up lie about making $100K your first year with a new contract.

Originally Posted by Davetastic

.....Your worst case scenario is not a likely outcome unless something catastrophic were to cause our economy and consequently our industry to collapse......

Originally Posted by Davetastic

So, you and I agree that it will be a while and there are many court scenarios to potentially play out before a new CBA but don't lump me in with those that are telling outright lies.....I am merely pointing out that even if in the worst case scenario as you point out were to come to fruition, an arbitrator will not be able to effectively argue that the "worst of the Atlas" and the "worst of the southern" CBA's would be "industry standard" given the current complexion of our industry. Your worst case scenario is not a likely outcome unless something catastrophic were to cause our economy and consequently our industry to collapse.

Originally Posted by Davetastic

So, you and I agree that it will be a while and there are many court scenarios to potentially play out before a new CBA but don't lump me in with those that are telling outright lies.....I am merely pointing out that even if in the worst case scenario as you point out were to come to fruition, an arbitrator will not be able to effectively argue that the "worst of the Atlas" and the "worst of the southern" CBA's would be "industry standard" given the current complexion of our industry. Your worst case scenario is not a likely outcome unless something catastrophic were to cause our economy and consequently our industry to collapse.