Twin Wasp

There isn't even a negotiation meeting scheduled this month.

The framework agreement that the company signed would have completed negotiations around the end of February. It broke the negotiations into three sections and assigned different sections of the contract to each time period. Shortly after starting the the second section which included scheduling the company said "We can't talk about scheduling without talking about compensation" which is in the the third section. The whole idea of the framework agreement was to lock some stuff down and then work from there. It's been a farce.

baam7700

742Dash! I applaud your professionalism, integrity and candor. This is what made this forum a great resource which it can be again with a lot more similar and neutral posts. Your sentiments are also being echoed by the recent and sharp increase in pilot mentor applicants - both for Captains and FOs especially over the last month!!! Prospective mentors are stepping up and that's really admirable!

The entire industry is undergoing transformation as we know and will be challenged with similar circumstances. And yes, due to Atlas' more dynamic flying, it will require a careful mix of expertise, support and patience to pull through these difficult times. Things (both good or bad) typically happen in the correct order of time so need not worry about the things you have little or no control over.

Instead, focus more on the things that you control directly and that truly make a difference i.e. working on your inadequacies towards becoming a better person/human being, a better professional (as it relates to your career) and being a better mentor. Chances are, there are more people who look up to you than you are aware of!!

Additionally, always remember that no one was born knowing everything (or born on the 74/76) and no one leaves this earth knowing everything. However, there will always be an abundance of opportunity to learn along the way so that's where a lot of focus needs to be placed...on learning aptitudes and opportunities.

Atlas will be just fine: the sky is not falling; the doors are not closing and yes, this too will come to past.

For those wanting to come here, do the same due diligence as you would with any other operator that you are genuinely interested in working for. I did and can report nothing but satisfaction with my decision to come here. Being in the industry for the past 32 years has taught me a lot and shown me plenty. Accordingly, Atlas has afforded me the opportunity to grow in that regard.

Always remember that life is an individual choice and it's entirely yours to make - not the next man's. Choose wisely and stay positive!!!

Stratocruzr

I thought you liked the positive? LoL

No news on negotiations, they meet in Feb. No one holding their breath, apps still out.

boeingdvr

I still don't see any reason for a CBA in the near future. They will wait far past the 23rd hour. We aren't even in talks currently

AAL763

How long before new hires can typically bid new equipment? Say if hired into the 767, would it be plausible to change to 747 FO after 2 years or so? Or do Atlas pilots stay on one fleet?

Twin Wasp

There's a 3 year seat lock however it doesn't apply to upgrades. So a 76 F/O will be on the 76 for at least 3 years. If they take the upgrade on the 76 during that time the clock starts running again. A 74 F/O might get off the airframe a couple months early by bidding 76 Captain.

ROCKETM8

That's a good point...so how do you get good at it with one landing a month?

ROCKETM8

Thanks Dash -- I appreciate it

useless

You don’t.

khsgt

1000 hours in the airplane and I’m just now starting to feel even remotely comfortable landing it....but I can make the best cup of airplane coffee you have ever had....priorities.