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02-18-2018 | 03:01 PM

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DC8DRIVER

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Originally Posted by TheChimp

Read through page 1099 on the interview subjects. I'm assuming most of this is all correct still? Also what is the chain of events to which HR gets a hold of you? Email with a test first...or phone call?

Have you applied to Kalitta yet?

02-18-2018 | 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

My first contact was a phone call from a 914 number.

The company notified the union last night that the Houston (IAH) base will be closing.

I received a call from that area code recently but no voicemail. I'm assuming it was from them however not certain. What does the phone call entail exactly if they do call back? I haven't received an email.

02-20-2018 | 07:21 AM

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For those of you naive enough to think we'll have a new contract soon Atlas has just stood up our Negotiating Committee again. We aren't even in negotiations. This is the 2nd time that they stood us up and the last time they did this we went 15 months without any negotiations what so ever. The odds are that we'll resume negotiations in May of 2019.

02-20-2018 | 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

What is their motivation to come to the table? If management at any airline can get away with kicking a contract down the road, its no surprise they would. As I understand it, the pilot group is banking on winning one of two lawsuits and attrition/new hire imbalance?

What is your guys next move?

This is just from a curious outsider looking in.

02-20-2018 | 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BluePAX

Clearly they have no motivation and its working! It's their ball and they can take it home anytime they want. Teamsters are along for the ride, unfortunately. The attrition/new hire balance is a weak strategy and it hasn't worked for us so far, so Im sure we'll keep amping up the enthusiasm. yippee. It does amaze me though why people still want to go to Atlas.

02-20-2018 | 08:46 AM

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They're finally showing. We literally couldn't get a hold of them until after lunch. Last time they did that we didn't negotiate for 15 months. We have zero leverage so I wouldn't expect anything new for years.

As for the law suits.... Better to hold out than accept the concessions on work rules they're asking us to take.

02-21-2018 | 02:19 PM

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Isn't the company required to negotiate in goo faith? How is not showing up/showing up late, good faith? If the company is not willing to negotiate should the union be released to self help?

02-21-2018 | 06:50 PM

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Isn't the company required to negotiate in goo faith? How is not showing up/showing up late, good faith? If the company is not willing to negotiate should the union be released to self help?

Release comes from the NMB after a SIGNIFICANT time in NMB supervised negotiations. We haven’t even begun such!

02-21-2018 | 09:23 PM

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Isn't the company required to negotiate in goo faith? How is not showing up/showing up late, good faith? If the company is not willing to negotiate should the union be released to self help?

We'd have to win a few law suits too since management is attempting to force us to merge contracts where we wouldn't be allowed to vote on a contract. We'd be forced to Arbitration where the Union and company couldn't agree. Getting released means you end up at impasses and probably no votes on TAs and then you're released. I think maybe 1 airline has been released in the last 10 years... For reference Kalitta went 6 years without a new contract and had voted yes to strike but wasn't released. Putting it simply.... Probably more than 6 years would go by before we'd be released and even then there'd be no guarantee of that. You'd be better off at a different airline by then should you end up at Atlas.

02-22-2018 | 12:26 PM

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What are the upcoming classes?
747 or 767 or both?
Do trips normally begin/end in base or is there considerable deadheading?
How long is upgrade these days?
How long are layovers, typically? Meaning, the faraway ones like Hong Kong and Tokyo for example? Ever any time to get out and explore or is it often min-rest?