Atlas Air Hiring
02-24-2018 | 11:28 PM
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I once heard the analogy of Atlas being two left hands trying to clap while not talking to each other.
And to the previous poster word on the street is we have lost at least 5 new hires in training recently with many more requiring additional training. My guess is that is due to their inability to consistently attract high quality applicants like they have in the past(no offense to any new hires, I was one too). I am sure it is on the backs of the crew members and not the training department, as their failure rate was very low before the crap hit the fan..
And to the previous poster word on the street is we have lost at least 5 new hires in training recently with many more requiring additional training. My guess is that is due to their inability to consistently attract high quality applicants like they have in the past(no offense to any new hires, I was one too). I am sure it is on the backs of the crew members and not the training department, as their failure rate was very low before the crap hit the fan..
02-25-2018 | 07:13 AM
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What are the upcoming classes?
747 or 767 or both?
Do trips normally begin/end in base or is there considerable deadheading?
How long is upgrade these days?
How long are layovers, typically? Meaning, the faraway ones like Hong Kong and Tokyo for example? Ever any time to get out and explore or is it often min-rest?
747 or 767 or both?
Do trips normally begin/end in base or is there considerable deadheading?
How long is upgrade these days?
How long are layovers, typically? Meaning, the faraway ones like Hong Kong and Tokyo for example? Ever any time to get out and explore or is it often min-rest?
Upgrade- a new hire likely will never see it. Right now it sits at 2 years - however 600
People have been hired between that pilot and the junior one.
Layovers in HKG. Sure. After the second time it's like any other place.
DH. Yep. 16 hours on the Lindsey Express from CVG-NRT. 8 guys and only 2 bunks on the upper deck next to the LAV 😘
Min layovers always on the -400
Longer layovers on the 767
2nd year pay on the 767 is 75k a year. Never break min pay. No OT out there
2nd year pay on the -400. Maybe 90k however you will be gone 21 straight days- and if you fail bidding 42 straight days.
Buyer beware. No CBA in sight
02-25-2018 | 09:45 PM
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02-26-2018 | 06:21 AM
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Right off the website:
Minimum of 2000 hours of total time
-or-
1500 TT and a Graduate of a 141, 142, or a US Military Training Program and holds an SIC/PIC Type Rating in a Turbojet Aircraft
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A minimum of 500 hours Turbine
02-26-2018 | 08:22 AM
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A buddy of mine failed bidding 101. 34 days out. Then was extended for 3 days. He had 7 days off. Unfortunately a 4 day commute back and forth to ANC. He was able to net 2 days off at home before heading out for 17 more.
Not bad- if you like living on the -400
Not bad- if you like living on the -400
02-26-2018 | 08:50 PM
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THAT bad?
Man sure is a lot of bad news on here!
It almost sounds like people are trying to scare away the new recruits. Could that be possible?
I know a <1yr. Atlas/Southern newbie who made 80G last year, was home 20 days last month which included reserve at his home base. Loves the aircraft he is on. Says he flies with some awesome dudes who are really helpful. Was going to use Atlas as a stepping stone but now actually thinks he is going to stay. Seemed pretty happy to me. Was this guy pulling my leg?
Every airline that isn't UNITED, FEDEX, UPS, DELTA, SOUTHWEST or AMERICAN is moaning that their airline is the worst. It depends on what you want. Want 121 TPIC fast? Go to Skywest and eat ramen for a couple years. Want a regional with a good QOL? Move to Puyallup and fly for Compass and enjoy the U-pick blueberries.
Sorry but some of this just doesn't add up with the stories I'm hearing from real friends on the line at Atlas.
It almost sounds like people are trying to scare away the new recruits. Could that be possible?
I know a <1yr. Atlas/Southern newbie who made 80G last year, was home 20 days last month which included reserve at his home base. Loves the aircraft he is on. Says he flies with some awesome dudes who are really helpful. Was going to use Atlas as a stepping stone but now actually thinks he is going to stay. Seemed pretty happy to me. Was this guy pulling my leg?
Every airline that isn't UNITED, FEDEX, UPS, DELTA, SOUTHWEST or AMERICAN is moaning that their airline is the worst. It depends on what you want. Want 121 TPIC fast? Go to Skywest and eat ramen for a couple years. Want a regional with a good QOL? Move to Puyallup and fly for Compass and enjoy the U-pick blueberries.
Sorry but some of this just doesn't add up with the stories I'm hearing from real friends on the line at Atlas.
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02-26-2018 | 08:52 PM
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Man sure is a lot of bad news on here!
It almost sounds like people are trying to scare away the new recruits. Could that be possible?
I know a <1yr. Atlas/Southern newbie who made 80G last year, was home 20 days last month which included reserve at his home base. Loves the aircraft he is on. Says he flies with some 'awesome dudes' who are really helpful. Was going to use Atlas as a stepping stone but now actually thinks he is going to stay. Seemed pretty happy to me. Was this guy pulling my leg?
Every airline that isn't UNITED, FEDEX, UPS, DELTA, SOUTHWEST or AMERICAN is moaning that their airline is the worst. It depends on what you want. Want 121 TPIC fast? Go to Skywest and eat ramen for a couple years. Want a regional with a good QOL? Move to Puyallup and fly for Compass and enjoy the U-pick blueberries.
Sorry but some of this complaining seems directed and just doesn't add up with the stories I'm hearing from real friends on the line at Atlas.
It almost sounds like people are trying to scare away the new recruits. Could that be possible?
I know a <1yr. Atlas/Southern newbie who made 80G last year, was home 20 days last month which included reserve at his home base. Loves the aircraft he is on. Says he flies with some 'awesome dudes' who are really helpful. Was going to use Atlas as a stepping stone but now actually thinks he is going to stay. Seemed pretty happy to me. Was this guy pulling my leg?
Every airline that isn't UNITED, FEDEX, UPS, DELTA, SOUTHWEST or AMERICAN is moaning that their airline is the worst. It depends on what you want. Want 121 TPIC fast? Go to Skywest and eat ramen for a couple years. Want a regional with a good QOL? Move to Puyallup and fly for Compass and enjoy the U-pick blueberries.
Sorry but some of this complaining seems directed and just doesn't add up with the stories I'm hearing from real friends on the line at Atlas.
02-26-2018 | 09:22 PM
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Ok Paywise, I'll check and see if that included previous employer. I really want to know.
People are asking on this thread why would anyone come here (Atlas) and fly a 747 to exotic places around the world? The answer is in the question. How many peole have flown a Dash or an RJ 8 legs in a day for poverty wages before commuting home for two days to kiss the wife and start another 5 day trip? 80 bucks an hour? That's multi-year captain pay (and years away) at pick-your-regional. Reserve for months. Crash pad. Away from family? That is a day in the life of the regionals. That first year bonus goes fast at Generic Regional. And there are really creative ways of the company getting it Back.
At least at Atlas you get your time off in a chunk. Maybe Bring back some cool things for the family from China and Aussie. Either way it's more of an adventure than Special Assists at SLC all day for 40 bucks an hour.
People are asking on this thread why would anyone come here (Atlas) and fly a 747 to exotic places around the world? The answer is in the question. How many peole have flown a Dash or an RJ 8 legs in a day for poverty wages before commuting home for two days to kiss the wife and start another 5 day trip? 80 bucks an hour? That's multi-year captain pay (and years away) at pick-your-regional. Reserve for months. Crash pad. Away from family? That is a day in the life of the regionals. That first year bonus goes fast at Generic Regional. And there are really creative ways of the company getting it Back.
At least at Atlas you get your time off in a chunk. Maybe Bring back some cool things for the family from China and Aussie. Either way it's more of an adventure than Special Assists at SLC all day for 40 bucks an hour.
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