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Old 03-16-2017 | 08:05 AM
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oh the tangled web they weave....
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Old 03-16-2017 | 08:10 AM
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I think they should interview and hire under the AAWH banner. That would give management the flexibility needed to assign newhires where needed.... Atlas or Southern.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kme9418
Well, what constitutes a spike?
5 washouts out of a class of 14.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Aryan
I think they should interview and hire under the AAWH banner. That would give management the flexibility needed to assign newhires where needed.... Atlas or Southern.
I'm all for that. It'd make it even more impossible to find people.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
5 washouts out of a class of 14.
But why?
lack of studying? Not enough experience coming in?

Details are important if you're going to make statements like that
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Old 03-16-2017 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
But why?
lack of studying? Not enough experience coming in?

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Exactly!! According to the EXCO, it was for "various reasons" but they did not specify that it was because they "washed out".
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Old 03-16-2017 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
But why?
lack of studying? Not enough experience coming in?

Details are important if you're going to make statements like that
When's the last time 9 of 14 did not complete training at Delta. FedEx? United? UPS? Think about that. More than 1 in 3 did not complete training.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 06:40 PM
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I also have a friend who got the Southern bait-and-switch. They tried to offer him an interview with Southern, even though he applied to only Atlas. They also told him some vague thing about the seniority lists being merged by later this year, so it'd basically be like "he was working for Atlas."

I just don't understand their strategy. I mean, there are actually still a few people out there who think Atlas is a decent place to work and haven't heard about all of the latest woes (living under a rock I guess). But is there anyone who doesn't know Southern is just terrible? Even at my regional people talked about Southern as the worst of the worst.

So we're having trouble getting people for Atlas, let's use our other, even more low-paying and terrible contract airline, to "lure" people in. I bet the resumes are just flooding their inboxes.
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Old 03-16-2017 | 07:46 PM
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Well here's the rub.....you want to fly for Atlas (despite the Kamakaze trajectory of the company.) Fair enough, you apply, jump through the hoops and get a job offer......AT SOUTHERN. You professionally decline the kind offer and now where do you stand in this process? Bait and switch, coercion, deception, call it what you want but Atlas are vindictive and if you decline the offer you may not get the Atlas offer......lucky you! Do yourself a favor and wait untill the curtain drops on this $hit show, one way or another.
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Old 03-17-2017 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
When's the last time 9 of 14 did not complete training at Delta. FedEx? United? UPS? Think about that. More than 1 in 3 did not complete training.
No one is doubting that people are leaving. Just take one look at the "delayed" seniority list and it will confirm what you are suggesting. It is not because they "washed out" as you say. People are leaving for various reasons, mostly for greener pastures. You have already said that you'd leave too if you had a better offer. Right?

Where did you get 9? I thought it was 6.....and you previously stated 5! Which is it?
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