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Old 09-13-2018 | 04:55 AM
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Fun fact: I'm a 3rd year FO on the 767 at Atlas. Just realized that 3rd year FOs at SkyLease are making more money than I am.

Yup. SkyLease.
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Old 09-14-2018 | 06:54 AM
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Alaska Airlines just opened their hiring window until Sept. 24
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Old 09-20-2018 | 07:25 AM
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With 2 postings of other airlines hiring on the same Atlas Air Hiring Page says all you need to know about working for Atless.
Move along nothing to see here.

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Old 09-21-2018 | 05:16 AM
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and by the traffic here I believe everyone already has pretty much moved along....
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Old 09-21-2018 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex
Fun fact: I'm a 3rd year FO on the 767 at Atlas. Just realized that 3rd year FOs at SkyLease are making more money than I am.

Yup. SkyLease.
Why don’t you go to Skylease then?
Honest question, not being facetious.
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Old 09-21-2018 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Why don’t you go to Skylease then?
Honest question, not being facetious.
Because it's empty rhetoric... besides, after speaking with multiple former skylease pilots, that company apparently has frequent issues with making payroll. Sometimes it takes months to get paid, if at all, should you decide to leave, from what i was told.
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Old 09-22-2018 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
Something worth considering is that our new CBA is now likely to take effect sometime around 2020. That’s when another series of contracts at major players come back up. While things will surely get better here, things will also be better elsewhere. So we’re lagging and we’re going to keep lagging unless we get something really, really good. That’s just not going to happen.

It’s kind of a bummer. I like my job. I like my crews. I detest applying, interviewing, etc. Sometimes it feels like we’re being forced out the door.
Agree 100%. In my years here I've always tried to stay positive and enjoy the good parts of the job, and hope for the best. But even when we get a contract at some point (years) in the future, we'll still be working for some of least pilot friendly management in the industry.

My smarter coworkers realized this far sooner than I and left already, and the really smart ones never even applied in the first place.
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Old 09-23-2018 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hahnmgh63
Was suppose to get a call from HR today but heard nothing, is this unusual for them not to be timely? Just uploaded a Resume two weeks ago.
Any updates on the Contract negotiations? Rumor has it no training classes until the end of the year which works for me, not sure I wan't to start if negotiations are heated since I've got a decent paying job right now.
I've been here 3 years. It's been the same ol story. I was very optimistic a contract was in the very near future.

Now that I'm in the trenches, I don't see a contract ever happening.

Atlas will simply right size, out source, use OT, and any other means besides paying us a livable wage.

You see, we aren't like a fed, delta, or even a regional.

Atlas has the abilty to our source their entire operation. They are simply a holding company "much like Starbucks or McDonald's. Hence the name "AAWWH"

If we can't fill a class, they simply make a call, have some rogue Asian carrier move the freight, they make some and so does Atlas. Still making a profit, and no need to hire more bodies.

A new hire today will never see -400 captain inside of 12 years. And possibly never see 767 captain inside of 6 years.

We have hired a ton of bodies in the last 4 years.

Be careful what you wish for. Flying around the world on min rest, or sitting R3 at the dirty DHL hub.

Gitty up.

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Old 09-23-2018 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingdvr
i've been here 3 years. It's been the same ol story. I was very optimistic a contract was in the very near future.

Now that i'm in the trenches, i don't see a contract ever happening.

Atlas will simply right size, out source, use ot, and any other means besides paying us a livable wage.

You see, we aren't like a fed, delta, or even a regional.

Atlas has the abilty to our source their entire operation. They are simply a holding company "much like starbucks or mcdonald's. Hence the name "aawwh"

if we can't fill a class, they simply make a call, have some rogue asian carrier move the freight, they make some and so does atlas. Still making a profit, and no need to hire more bodies.

A new hire today will never see -400 captain inside of 12 years. And possibly never see 767 captain inside of 6 years.

We have hired a ton of bodies in the last 4 years.

Be careful what you wish for. Flying around the world on min rest, or sitting r3 at the dirty dhl hub.

Gitty up.

100% exactly correct
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Old 09-27-2018 | 12:35 PM
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What is the time frame to hold ONT? What kind of schedule can one expect out of ONT? Trying to figure if it’s worth taking the interview.
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