Atlas Air Hiring
04-15-2022, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cleared4appch
That sounds really great. Seems like a great group of pilots there, and freight is where I ultimately want to be at. I honestly don’t know if I can tolerate flight attendants and angry passengers for the rest of my flying career. I’d like to try my hand at UPS or FedEx eventually as a career destination, but if I don’t get selected, it’s not the end of the world for me, and I’d be happy staying at a place like Atlas. Plus, I’ve always wanted to fly a 747. Hopefully they won’t retire those anytime soon and they’ll be around for many years to come. It’s one of those planes on my list to fly before I retire.
04-16-2022, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Sponsoring non-Aussies takes closer to a year and is subject to annual quotas that often get filled up in Q1 of a year, so it doesn't really work well for pilot hiring.
04-16-2022, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AvOniceday
Why don’t they look at O-1 visas or other work permits. While it doesn’t give one the right to immigrate, at least you can live and work and the time frame seems much quicker?
04-16-2022, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AvOniceday
Why don’t they look at O-1 visas or other work permits. While it doesn’t give one the right to immigrate, at least you can live and work and the time frame seems much quicker?
You can't just import a guy you want, the process is very tedious, expensive and time consuming. It's just not worth it in most cases. And we are all glad that is the way, otherwise our work rules and benefits would mirror those of Canada and Europe and so on.
04-16-2022, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
The 747 flies cargo that no other western built civilian jet can do. And the military can't, for now, use the -8F. So the -400 will be around for a very long time.
04-16-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 3pointlanding
As much as I love the "Queen of the sky" I have to let progress have its way. True the 747 can fly a lot of outside cargo that no other can, but out size cargo is a limited quantity and a lot of the Jumbos will eventually go away for lack of need. The 777 can't handle the weight the 747 can but compare fuel cost per lb. and the 747 doesn't compare. The FedEx 777 can fly from Guangou to Memphis at max gross weight with reserves (17 hrs.).
04-16-2022, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
Airline pilots are not "Individuals with an extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business, or athletics"
You can't just import a guy you want, the process is very tedious, expensive and time consuming. It's just not worth it in most cases. And we are all glad that is the way, otherwise our work rules and benefits would mirror those of Canada and Europe and so on.
You can't just import a guy you want, the process is very tedious, expensive and time consuming. It's just not worth it in most cases. And we are all glad that is the way, otherwise our work rules and benefits would mirror those of Canada and Europe and so on.
04-16-2022, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 3pointlanding
As much as I love the "Queen of the sky" I have to let progress have its way. True the 747 can fly a lot of outside cargo that no other can, but out size cargo is a limited quantity and a lot of the Jumbos will eventually go away for lack of need. The 777 can't handle the weight the 747 can but compare fuel cost per lb. and the 747 doesn't compare. The FedEx 777 can fly from Guangou to Memphis at max gross weight with reserves (17 hrs.).
04-16-2022, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
The -8F will be around for some time yes. But the 400s aren’t going to be around much longer. The 777F/777XF/A350Fs will be the growth frames moving forward in the freight industry. Outside cargo that required the nose losing capability of the 74 aren’t as frequent.
If cargo prices stay where they are now and a 747 charter from HKG to the US goes for over 1mil per flight, the fuel costs don't matter much.
But I agree, -400 in the Express cargo sector won't live for long.
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