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Old 04-15-2022, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cleared4appch View Post
That sounds really great. Seems like a great group of pilots there, and freight is where I ultimately want to be at. I honestly donít know if I can tolerate flight attendants and angry passengers for the rest of my flying career. Iíd like to try my hand at UPS or FedEx eventually as a career destination, but if I donít get selected, itís not the end of the world for me, and Iíd be happy staying at a place like Atlas. Plus, Iíve always wanted to fly a 747. Hopefully they wonít retire those anytime soon and theyíll be around for many years to come. Itís one of those planes on my list to fly before I retire.
The 747 flies cargo that no other western built civilian jet can do. And the military can't, for now, use the -8F. So the -400 will be around for a very long time.
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Old 04-16-2022, 01:40 AM
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Sponsoring non-Aussies takes closer to a year and is subject to annual quotas that often get filled up in Q1 of a year, so it doesn't really work well for pilot hiring.
Why donít they look at O-1 visas or other work permits. While it doesnít give one the right to immigrate, at least you can live and work and the time frame seems much quicker?
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Old 04-16-2022, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AvOniceday View Post
Why donít they look at O-1 visas or other work permits. While it doesnít give one the right to immigrate, at least you can live and work and the time frame seems much quicker?
Why would we want them to? This is the first real leverage the profession has had in generations. If Congress give management a special deal to import pilots to solve a problem they created through years of ignoring the facts and not investing in their workers I for one wonít be impressed. Engineering and maintenance in the industry are facing a similar crunch.
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Old 04-16-2022, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AvOniceday View Post
Why donít they look at O-1 visas or other work permits. While it doesnít give one the right to immigrate, at least you can live and work and the time frame seems much quicker?
Airline pilots are not "Individuals with an extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business, or athletics"

You can't just import a guy you want, the process is very tedious, expensive and time consuming. It's just not worth it in most cases. And we are all glad that is the way, otherwise our work rules and benefits would mirror those of Canada and Europe and so on.
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Old 04-16-2022, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
The 747 flies cargo that no other western built civilian jet can do. And the military can't, for now, use the -8F. So the -400 will be around for a very long time.
As much as I love the "Queen of the sky" I have to let progress have its way. True the 747 can fly a lot of outside cargo that no other can, but out size cargo is a limited quantity and a lot of the Jumbos will eventually go away for lack of need. The 777 can't handle the weight the 747 can but compare fuel cost per lb. and the 747 doesn't compare. The FedEx 777 can fly from Guangou to Memphis at max gross weight with reserves (17 hrs.).
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Old 04-16-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 3pointlanding View Post
As much as I love the "Queen of the sky" I have to let progress have its way. True the 747 can fly a lot of outside cargo that no other can, but out size cargo is a limited quantity and a lot of the Jumbos will eventually go away for lack of need. The 777 can't handle the weight the 747 can but compare fuel cost per lb. and the 747 doesn't compare. The FedEx 777 can fly from Guangou to Memphis at max gross weight with reserves (17 hrs.).
True if ďmax gross weightĒ refers to takeoff weight. The 777F can only do about 10 hours (HKG/ANC) plus reserves if loaded to max zero fuel weight. However, it will fly 20+ hours with full tanks and about half full of cargo. Iíve done over 19Ö.it was a long, long day. I donít miss the 747. Iím glad I got to fly it, but it will always be the coolest looking wide-body IMO.
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Old 04-16-2022, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Airline pilots are not "Individuals with an extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business, or athletics"

You can't just import a guy you want, the process is very tedious, expensive and time consuming. It's just not worth it in most cases. And we are all glad that is the way, otherwise our work rules and benefits would mirror those of Canada and Europe and so on.
The -8F will be around for some time yes. But the 400s arenít going to be around much longer. The 777F/777XF/A350Fs will be the growth frames moving forward in the freight industry. Outside cargo that required the nose losing capability of the 74 arenít as frequent.
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Old 04-16-2022, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 3pointlanding View Post
As much as I love the "Queen of the sky" I have to let progress have its way. True the 747 can fly a lot of outside cargo that no other can, but out size cargo is a limited quantity and a lot of the Jumbos will eventually go away for lack of need. The 777 can't handle the weight the 747 can but compare fuel cost per lb. and the 747 doesn't compare. The FedEx 777 can fly from Guangou to Memphis at max gross weight with reserves (17 hrs.).
Yes the number of airframes will definitely be reduced, but I don't see it going away any time soon. Anything that requires loading through the nose is either Antonovs or Military, or 747.
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Old 04-16-2022, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8 View Post
The -8F will be around for some time yes. But the 400s aren’t going to be around much longer. The 777F/777XF/A350Fs will be the growth frames moving forward in the freight industry. Outside cargo that required the nose losing capability of the 74 aren’t as frequent.
Depends on the military. They can't use -8 for now, and often would bulk out a 777.
If cargo prices stay where they are now and a 747 charter from HKG to the US goes for over 1mil per flight, the fuel costs don't matter much.

But I agree, -400 in the Express cargo sector won't live for long.
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Old 04-16-2022, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Airline pilots are not "Individuals with an extraordinary ability in the sciences, education, business, or athletics"
No only Slovenian not-so-super models qualify.
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