Atlas Air Hiring
05-04-2022, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ZJM25
The CJO doc they sent over to sign said 05/30. I don't believe they're accounting for flying in the day prior. Not that I am, anyway as I live 40 minutes away.
05-04-2022, 11:23 PM
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No hits/thoughts/answers earlier when posted as its own thread so I will post it on our largest thread for info our Union or Union type experts (not me) can provide.
UPS TEAMSTERS possible strike 2023?
Legitimate concern perhaps, not trying to stir up anything but an understanding on how the situation below may affect us regarding the Brown Teamsters? Definitely not an expert hence the question. We do not have truckers (Package Drivers, etc) over 300,000 employees besides ourselves of any sort but we fall under Teamsters. UPS pilot group Union is in house but they are collectively under the same employer so I can see where they’re coming from. Looks like a new Sheriff in town. Thoughts anyone?
On the UPS Forum under “UPS Hiring 2022”
whalesurfer 05-01-2022 - “Seriously though, new folks - not easy to do but yes, even the new folks please start saving money. The teamster strike will probably happen and yes, we WILL honor it.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...r-labor-issues
*The actual question: UPS Teamsters strike Jan 2023, where does that leave us? “All In! or All out? Or is this a 10ft pole question…?
UPS TEAMSTERS possible strike 2023?
Legitimate concern perhaps, not trying to stir up anything but an understanding on how the situation below may affect us regarding the Brown Teamsters? Definitely not an expert hence the question. We do not have truckers (Package Drivers, etc) over 300,000 employees besides ourselves of any sort but we fall under Teamsters. UPS pilot group Union is in house but they are collectively under the same employer so I can see where they’re coming from. Looks like a new Sheriff in town. Thoughts anyone?
On the UPS Forum under “UPS Hiring 2022”
whalesurfer 05-01-2022 - “Seriously though, new folks - not easy to do but yes, even the new folks please start saving money. The teamster strike will probably happen and yes, we WILL honor it.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...r-labor-issues
*The actual question: UPS Teamsters strike Jan 2023, where does that leave us? “All In! or All out? Or is this a 10ft pole question…?
05-05-2022, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmyl
Not sure about that. Friend of mine just got the offer today for a 74 course starting on 5/31.
05-05-2022, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by C17B74
No hits/thoughts/answers earlier when posted as its own thread so I will post it on our largest thread for info our Union or Union type experts (not me) can provide.
UPS TEAMSTERS possible strike 2023?
Legitimate concern perhaps, not trying to stir up anything but an understanding on how the situation below may affect us regarding the Brown Teamsters? Definitely not an expert hence the question. We do not have truckers (Package Drivers, etc) over 300,000 employees besides ourselves of any sort but we fall under Teamsters. UPS pilot group Union is in house but they are collectively under the same employer so I can see where they’re coming from. Looks like a new Sheriff in town. Thoughts anyone?
On the UPS Forum under “UPS Hiring 2022”
whalesurfer 05-01-2022 - “Seriously though, new folks - not easy to do but yes, even the new folks please start saving money. The teamster strike will probably happen and yes, we WILL honor it.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...r-labor-issues
*The actual question: UPS Teamsters strike Jan 2023, where does that leave us? “All In! or All out? Or is this a 10ft pole question…?
UPS TEAMSTERS possible strike 2023?
Legitimate concern perhaps, not trying to stir up anything but an understanding on how the situation below may affect us regarding the Brown Teamsters? Definitely not an expert hence the question. We do not have truckers (Package Drivers, etc) over 300,000 employees besides ourselves of any sort but we fall under Teamsters. UPS pilot group Union is in house but they are collectively under the same employer so I can see where they’re coming from. Looks like a new Sheriff in town. Thoughts anyone?
On the UPS Forum under “UPS Hiring 2022”
whalesurfer 05-01-2022 - “Seriously though, new folks - not easy to do but yes, even the new folks please start saving money. The teamster strike will probably happen and yes, we WILL honor it.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...r-labor-issues
*The actual question: UPS Teamsters strike Jan 2023, where does that leave us? “All In! or All out? Or is this a 10ft pole question…?
Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed, however, to limit the rights of the Union or the Atlas Crew Members to refuse to cross lawful strike picket lines established by or on behalf of the pilots represented by any union lawfully certified or recognized pursuant to the Railway Labor Act."
Our rights and responsibilities are pretty clearly spelled out in the CBA, it seems to me. Is IPA planning on calling their own strike? Or will they just not be crossing the line made by the warehouse workers? I don't believe that we have any cover to refuse to cross a picket line that is created by a union that isn't a picket line for pilots.
05-05-2022, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ZJM25
Hey guys,
Will be coming onboard later this month. At the time I received my CJO email last week, I also received a separate email with the first training date and AC type (747), which I had to sign and submit. I cant see a copy of that doc anywhere online, and that has been the only reference to my fleet assignment. Is there anywhere else where I can confirm which A/C I'm assigned to?
thanks,
Will be coming onboard later this month. At the time I received my CJO email last week, I also received a separate email with the first training date and AC type (747), which I had to sign and submit. I cant see a copy of that doc anywhere online, and that has been the only reference to my fleet assignment. Is there anywhere else where I can confirm which A/C I'm assigned to?
thanks,
05-05-2022, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RyeMex
CBA 26.W : "The Union agrees that during the term of the Agreement there will not be any... refusals to cross picket lines ...
Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed, however, to limit the rights of the Union or the Atlas Crew Members to refuse to cross lawful strike picket lines established by or on behalf of the pilots represented by any union lawfully certified or recognized pursuant to the Railway Labor Act."
Our rights and responsibilities are pretty clearly spelled out in the CBA, it seems to me. Is IPA planning on calling their own strike? Or will they just not be crossing the line made by the warehouse workers? I don't believe that we have any cover to refuse to cross a picket line that is created by a union that isn't a picket line for pilots.
Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed, however, to limit the rights of the Union or the Atlas Crew Members to refuse to cross lawful strike picket lines established by or on behalf of the pilots represented by any union lawfully certified or recognized pursuant to the Railway Labor Act."
Our rights and responsibilities are pretty clearly spelled out in the CBA, it seems to me. Is IPA planning on calling their own strike? Or will they just not be crossing the line made by the warehouse workers? I don't believe that we have any cover to refuse to cross a picket line that is created by a union that isn't a picket line for pilots.
I can assure you, this Teamster will not be crossing any strike picket lines whether they be in front of hotels or UPS/FDX/DHL/Amazon operations. As a Captain I'm responsible for the safety of my crew, not just in the air, but on the ground as well.
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