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Old 08-05-2014 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by C5nwhaleguy
I agree and it amazes me that this has been the union attitude....it almost like negotiating at a used car lot with terrible credit....where does this attitude at this day in age come from?! During the next 10 years which are arguably the best time in years for airline union gains, yet we handicap them with the "stockholm syndrome" that persists within the Atlas pilot group. It seems thoroughly entrenched through most of the 10+ year guys, I've been here for 4 years and can't stand to be associated with such a lacky spineless attitude. ITs embarrassing after all the sacrifices and efforts over many years of our careers that guys here don't have i'm sorry to say a proud place to be a part of. ITs as though i'm just happy to be here and grateful to be a part of the dysfunctional ineffective pilot team and make a little $ on the side! Guys want experience in our upcoming EXCO but whats stated above is what that'll get us it seems in the fall....more of the same
Spot on.....................unfortunately.

The culture here is like dog that has been beaten, repeatedly.
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Old 08-05-2014 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CandlerKid
You nailed it. These guys think that the current industry climate is the same as when they negotiated the first contract somehow?!? Excuses are numerous. "This is only our second contract," "you don't understand ACMI," "the company needs flexibility," and the best one of "your old company is out of business because the pilots costed too much." Hopefully we can pull it together by next year. At least more people are educated and starting to see the light lately.
Just remember, the 12yr + 74 left seaters that say this ARE NOW THE MINORITY. You have a vote in the upcoming election. Use it!
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Old 08-06-2014 | 06:06 PM
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Hey guys, this is great info and thanks for it. But I been looking and I cannot find info on the LAX base. Can you elaborate? I believe its a 74 base, but how senior is it and are their trips any different from the other bases. Thanks!

I been applying for well over a year a still nothing and I will continue to do so... Currently RJ right seat, 2+ years of Part 135 Freight flying single pilot, B.S.Degree, 4800hrs.
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Old 08-07-2014 | 04:55 AM
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LAX is a 747 base. The flying is almost exclusively DHL flying to Asia. The frequency of departures from LAX has greatly reduced over the past few years. This has led to the base shrinking to a little less than 40 FO's. It's quite senior except for a few more junior crew members sitting at the bottom of the base list. Those junior guys were able to make it in when the base in Seattle opened this month. Going forward, unless something changes, I don't think LAX will grow.
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Old 08-07-2014 | 12:16 PM
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I have been applying every 6 months for 3 years and nothing. Now there is a base where I live so I will change that to applying every month. 8000+ TT 5000+ TPIC.

Any more ideas?
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Old 08-07-2014 | 12:20 PM
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Yep, as far as I could tell every single one of us interviewing this Tuesday (8/5) had an internal rec sent in on our behalf.
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Old 08-07-2014 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover
I have been applying every 6 months for 3 years and nothing. Now there is a base where I live so I will change that to applying every month. 8000+ TT 5000+ TPIC.

Any more ideas?
Same boat here, 8000tt, 5000tpic, 8 types, international experience, been applying for 3 or 4 years, nothing but crickets.
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Old 08-07-2014 | 03:54 PM
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C5, Candler, etc

Wow, you guys are campaigning even on this thread?!!
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Old 08-07-2014 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 744driver
C5, Candler, etc

Wow, you guys are campaigning even on this thread?!!

Those guys seem to get it! Campaign away!
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Old 08-07-2014 | 04:23 PM
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The only thing I campaign for is us getting paid what we are worth and stop taking it with no lube from the company for fun. No time to fit in anything on my off days like union work when I'm gone as much as I am. 13 days off is hard to fit in all the beer I like to drink already with nothing else to do! Good luck to you if you're running though.
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