Atlas Air Hiring
07-28-2014 | 06:47 PM
#9112
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I'm just being honest. I'm making an honest statement that I would go back to my old pay if it meant I could get back my old work rules and go to work without my schedule blowing up every 12 hours. This is not an Atlas v Polar statement, we are way passed that and if it's taken that way, then you guys are missing my point. My point is, QOL at Atlas from my perspective is horrible compared to my old job.
07-28-2014 | 06:58 PM
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I was using the Polar example only to compare how degraded our current QOL is at Atlas from the perspective of someone who's flown at both airlines. I don't know how you interpret my post as having anything to do with "Atlas buying Polar" or having an issue with the merger. I wish we had merged years ago and could be working on a third generation contract right now. What I do have an issue with is all the work rules we lost in the process and how that affects the daily life of our pilots.
07-28-2014 | 07:56 PM
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You have to admit, some of the work rules were silly, like only being able to call you during one hour of the day. The Polar work rules were for scheduled carrier type ops. If you were still in the environment, I could understand your feeling, but there's no going back. We'll just have to improve what we have.
07-28-2014 | 10:09 PM
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Most understand that ACMI is different and the company needs some flexibility. However, the days of just saying whatever the company needs to help them out is over. We give them them most flexibility in the industry probably. We deserve to be compensated for it!
07-28-2014 | 10:27 PM
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I agree with you CandlerKid...
DC8, I think that the point that I wanted to make and certainly should have is that the business plan that "old Polar" had was not sustainable at the time that Atlas bought Polar. Had it stayed that way, Polar would not have survived...and I submit to you that the Polar business plan is now based on the ACMI model, but with only one customer, DHL.
DC8, I think that the point that I wanted to make and certainly should have is that the business plan that "old Polar" had was not sustainable at the time that Atlas bought Polar. Had it stayed that way, Polar would not have survived...and I submit to you that the Polar business plan is now based on the ACMI model, but with only one customer, DHL.
07-29-2014 | 01:46 AM
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I also like that a lot of the flights are capacity shared. It's amazing to me to see how many pallets are on Polar waybills and not just DHL. Usually on the intra-Asia flying. That's probably great revenue.
07-29-2014 | 02:15 AM
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Where's OUR flexibility, didn't someone mention a trip trade module being implemented?
07-29-2014 | 02:49 AM
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Trip trade software is sched to be out next month.
I am advocating for worldwide Gateway Basing in the contract. No imputed income, and your pay starts 1.5 hrs before your gateway flight. Your base is now your gateway. Kalitta and southern have home basing...this is almost the same, but more realistic for the company, as some people live in the boonies.
I am advocating for worldwide Gateway Basing in the contract. No imputed income, and your pay starts 1.5 hrs before your gateway flight. Your base is now your gateway. Kalitta and southern have home basing...this is almost the same, but more realistic for the company, as some people live in the boonies.
07-29-2014 | 02:59 AM
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[QUOTE] If I were an RJ Captain with 1000 PIC I'd come to Atlas for the type in the hopes that it'd complete my resume. /QUOTE]
Why would u do that and give up your flowthru? All the major regionals all have flowthru sooner rather than later. Why would you do that and give up $15-$22k base monthly salary flying In China? Why would you do that instead of going directly to a major? Why would you do that instead of going to a ME carrier with a DFW base?...they will b forced to have US bases as the pilot shortage gets worse.
The pilot shortage will get worse and worse, until major changes like the above are implemented. Atlas could easily be left in the dust and not be able to get pilots, unless they drastically improve their contract.
Why would u do that and give up your flowthru? All the major regionals all have flowthru sooner rather than later. Why would you do that and give up $15-$22k base monthly salary flying In China? Why would you do that instead of going directly to a major? Why would you do that instead of going to a ME carrier with a DFW base?...they will b forced to have US bases as the pilot shortage gets worse.
The pilot shortage will get worse and worse, until major changes like the above are implemented. Atlas could easily be left in the dust and not be able to get pilots, unless they drastically improve their contract.
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