Atlas Air Hiring
04-23-2022, 08:18 AM
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,358
Originally Posted by Elevation
I got distracted while editing that last point. I was trying to trim it down.
If training and standards is up to task, hiring new pilots creates a predictable product. There is a deep pool of talent to draw from since we are relatively appealing to these lower time pilots. That means we can filter out problems. Nothing about what we do is above the capabilities of a motivated candidate.
Risk is unavoidable. If I'm going to be taking risks I want those risks to benefit somebody who attended public schools in the US.
04-23-2022, 03:07 PM
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: B777
Posts: 176
Originally Posted by Elevation
What I was trying to say is we need training and standards to function. We can't bandage a bad training situation by hiring foreigners. Experienced pilots bring unpredictable surprises through gaps in training and standards.
If training and standards is up to task, hiring new pilots creates a predictable product. There is a deep pool of talent to draw from since we are relatively appealing to these lower time pilots. That means we can filter out problems. Nothing about what we do is above the capabilities of a motivated candidate.
Risk is unavoidable. If I'm going to be taking risks I want those risks to benefit somebody who attended public schools in the US.
If training and standards is up to task, hiring new pilots creates a predictable product. There is a deep pool of talent to draw from since we are relatively appealing to these lower time pilots. That means we can filter out problems. Nothing about what we do is above the capabilities of a motivated candidate.
Risk is unavoidable. If I'm going to be taking risks I want those risks to benefit somebody who attended public schools in the US.
My own interview coming up soon. Feeling thankful regardless….
HD
04-23-2022, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1
Older fella here right seat on 74 w different outfit. Our company has picked up ALOT of Aussies. Great backgrounds. Emirates, Cathay, Eithad, ANA, etc. Mix between former captains & FO’s. Great standards, procedures, professionalism & hanging out with.
My own interview coming up soon. Feeling thankful regardless….
HD
My own interview coming up soon. Feeling thankful regardless….
HD
04-23-2022, 07:58 PM
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by HPIC
On the 747, zero chance of LAX as a NH…probably 6–12 months. On the 777 LAX/767 ONT, about a 50/50 chance. If you don’t get that as a NH you should be able to get it before finishing training.
All fleets have the same schedule. You owe the company up to 17 days a month. Some lines are 17 straight, some are split into multiple shorter trips over a 30 or 60 day period. It all depends on what you bid and what you can hold.
All fleets have the same schedule. You owe the company up to 17 days a month. Some lines are 17 straight, some are split into multiple shorter trips over a 30 or 60 day period. It all depends on what you bid and what you can hold.
04-23-2022, 10:14 PM
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Position: No Hats No Jackets No PAX
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1
My own interview coming up soon. Feeling thankful regardless….
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Agree with you elevation when it comes to hiring our very own from the soil we grew up on if at all possible but not an absolute and that is just me. The outlier is the attitude regardless of generation. Not asking anyone to be grateful, incredibly humble or eat humble pie - just respect the industry and what it cost for those prior and currently employed to get here and make it what it is today no matter the outfit. It appears not everything can be taught/learned. Not advocating for the company to fix it’s issues with help from outside, but I would rather fly with those who exhibit professionalism regardless if their intent is to move on and I will always wish them the best in their endeavors!
*Just speaking for myself. I was grateful to be hired here many moons ago coming in from the military at a time having just over 5,000 hrs when you were lucky to be looked at. Plenty of PIC, hvy turbine, Instructor, definitely not needed Masters Degree, etc. Learned many more nuggets for my bag of tricks from the long timers here and others after. Either way, I still have a ton of friends at other outfits especially at Purple and Brown, most of which were before I arrived here constantly busting my chops to jump ship. Grass may seem greener, but its not always the case and even if it were you still have to mow it. Turns out this is my niche purely based upon my own priorities and nothing else. Everyone is different but we all have only ONELife. Choose wisely if and when you have the option. It’s not for everyone, but there is goodness here let’s bring it up as best we can.
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04-24-2022, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by C17B74
Congrats and you will do great!
Agree with you elevation when it comes to hiring our very own from the soil we grew up on if at all possible but not an absolute and that is just me. The outlier is the attitude regardless of generation. Not asking anyone to be grateful, incredibly humble or eat humble pie - just respect the industry and what it cost for those prior and currently employed to get here and make it what it is today no matter the outfit. It appears not everything can be taught/learned. Not advocating for the company to fix it’s issues with help from outside, but I would rather fly with those who exhibit professionalism regardless if their intent is to move on and I will always wish them the best in their endeavors!
*Just speaking for myself. I was grateful to be hired here many moons ago coming in from the military at a time having just over 5,000 hrs when you were lucky to be looked at. Plenty of PIC, hvy turbine, Instructor, definitely not needed Masters Degree, etc. Learned many more nuggets for my bag of tricks from the long timers here and others after. Either way, I still have a ton of friends at other outfits especially at Purple and Brown, most of which were before I arrived here constantly busting my chops to jump ship. Grass may seem greener, but its not always the case and even if it were you still have to mow it. Turns out this is my niche purely based upon my own priorities and nothing else. Everyone is different but we all have only ONELife. Choose wisely if and when you have the option. It’s not for everyone, but there is goodness here let’s bring it up as best we can.
Agree with you elevation when it comes to hiring our very own from the soil we grew up on if at all possible but not an absolute and that is just me. The outlier is the attitude regardless of generation. Not asking anyone to be grateful, incredibly humble or eat humble pie - just respect the industry and what it cost for those prior and currently employed to get here and make it what it is today no matter the outfit. It appears not everything can be taught/learned. Not advocating for the company to fix it’s issues with help from outside, but I would rather fly with those who exhibit professionalism regardless if their intent is to move on and I will always wish them the best in their endeavors!
*Just speaking for myself. I was grateful to be hired here many moons ago coming in from the military at a time having just over 5,000 hrs when you were lucky to be looked at. Plenty of PIC, hvy turbine, Instructor, definitely not needed Masters Degree, etc. Learned many more nuggets for my bag of tricks from the long timers here and others after. Either way, I still have a ton of friends at other outfits especially at Purple and Brown, most of which were before I arrived here constantly busting my chops to jump ship. Grass may seem greener, but its not always the case and even if it were you still have to mow it. Turns out this is my niche purely based upon my own priorities and nothing else. Everyone is different but we all have only ONELife. Choose wisely if and when you have the option. It’s not for everyone, but there is goodness here let’s bring it up as best we can.
04-25-2022, 04:27 AM
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 33
Originally Posted by C17B74
Recency of experience however you can pull it off. Regional, corporate, etc. as you already have both 121 and 135 experience nothing will be new to you. Never make the shot you don’t take and apply, but getting back in the game somewhere will definitely help. Others may more insightful inputs.
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