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Old 04-21-2022 | 07:26 AM
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What’s the chance of getting LAX or ONT for a new hire?

Same deal with 17 days on/13 days off?

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Old 04-21-2022 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Kowloon18
What’s the chance of getting LAX or ONT for a new hire?

Same deal with 17 days on/13 days off?

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On the 747, zero chance of LAX as a NH…probably 6–12 months. On the 777 LAX/767 ONT, about a 50/50 chance. If you don’t get that as a NH you should be able to get it before finishing training.

All fleets have the same schedule. You owe the company up to 17 days a month. Some lines are 17 straight, some are split into multiple shorter trips over a 30 or 60 day period. It all depends on what you bid and what you can hold.
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Old 04-21-2022 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by letsfly2018
Sorry if I struck a nerve there thats not at all how I feel. It was meant to be a feeler on what lower-time people were getting hired into. The 737 is miles better than the regional jets, but like you said I'm still new to this and having more monthly flight time was my primary concern. I'm just trying to get that experience up. Didn't intend to come off like that.
Don't beat yourself up...too much. The times, they are a changin' and you'll always run into folks that are salty about missing the 60s when they hired 707 FEs off the street at TWA and Pan Am. But with that being said, a lot of folks here put in years on the ramp before they got their shot at a 135 outfit. Also, the 73 is a handful to fly and would be a great step up from a 145 or 200 from a learning airmanship standpoint. It humbled me more than a little bit, more than a few times. And the block time has gone from 10-15 hrs a month to 25-50, so there will be some actual consolidation of knowledge. Sure, the 2nd year payrate sucks but the pay for all the widebody fleets doesn't really get good until year 3. And 3 months of seniority is 100-150 numbers right now...who knows if that's the difference between upgrading soon or forever from now.

Anyway, if you wanna do ACMI, I'd take the 73 if you get the offer.
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Old 04-21-2022 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver
Don't beat yourself up...too much. The times, they are a changin' and you'll always run into folks that are salty about missing the 60s when they hired 707 FEs off the street at TWA and Pan Am. But with that being said, a lot of folks here put in years on the ramp before they got their shot at a 135 outfit. Also, the 73 is a handful to fly and would be a great step up from a 145 or 200 from a learning airmanship standpoint. It humbled me more than a little bit, more than a few times. And the block time has gone from 10-15 hrs a month to 25-50, so there will be some actual consolidation of knowledge. Sure, the 2nd year payrate sucks but the pay for all the widebody fleets doesn't really get good until year 3. And 3 months of seniority is 100-150 numbers right now...who knows if that's the difference between upgrading soon or forever from now.

Anyway, if you wanna do ACMI, I'd take the 73 if you get the offer.
25-50 hours is more actual stick time than 747 FOs get in 6 months.
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Old 04-21-2022 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
25-50 hours is more actual stick time than 747 FOs get in 6 months.
This is true
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Old 04-21-2022 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Swakid8
This is true
I bet 747 guys make better coffee though. Plenty of practice to master that skill.
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Old 04-21-2022 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
I bet 747 guys make better coffee though. Plenty of practice to master that skill.
I make the best worst coffee on the 737. 74 guys will appreciate my coffee skills too
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Old 04-22-2022 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by letsfly2018
Sorry if I struck a nerve there thats not at all how I feel. It was meant to be a feeler on what lower-time people were getting hired into. The 737 is miles better than the regional jets, but like you said I'm still new to this and having more monthly flight time was my primary concern. I'm just trying to get that experience up. Didn't intend to come off like that.
I'm a widebody captain here. I'll fly with you. There's nothing cosmic about what we do, where we go or the planes we fly. Just be prepared to read airway manuals, ops manuals, etc.

I didn't read your previous comment as an indication of entitlement, but just an artifact of communication from somebody who wants to go as far and as fast as they can. Be prepared to learn and be prepare to self-teach material thar we assume you already know.

You don't need to tread on eggshells around us.
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Old 04-22-2022 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Elevation
I'm a widebody captain here. I'll fly with you. There's nothing cosmic about what we do, where we go or the planes we fly. Just be prepared to read airway manuals, ops manuals, etc.

I didn't read your previous comment as an indication of entitlement, but just an artifact of communication from somebody who wants to go as far and as fast as they can. Be prepared to learn and be prepare to self-teach material thar we assume you already know.

You don't need to tread on eggshells around us.
You should join management to lobby congress to lower the 1500 hr rule to 250. I mean, why not? "There's nothing cosmic about what we do, where we go or the planes we fly." Why are we even getting paid what we get paid? There's nothing special about what we do. Anyone can do it!
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Old 04-22-2022 | 10:27 AM
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I'm interested in flying for Atlas and I have the minimums but I've been out of the cockpit for nearly 10 years raising my two boys. I hold an ATP, two types and just under 3k hours; 2500 turbine at a 121 and about 100 at a 135. Yes- I was hired at a 121 with 370 hours, before the 1500 hour rule.
How do I get back in the game? I'm considering doing a refresher at sim-com, any advice is greatly appreciated.
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