I'd like to know if Amazon knows the state of labor/mgt relations.

 

No, I'm sure they entered into multi-million, perhaps billion dollar contracts with at least two airline holding groups and who knows how many dozens of other venders without thorough due diliigence...

 

Anybody heard about calls going out for interviews soon? I wasn't able to go in March so I was put on the wait list for the next round. Keep hearing June but no call yet.

 

They did their "thorough due diligence", yet they signed anyway

You don't think that Atlas painted a rosy picture to Amazon?

There is a difference between what is published in industry publications, what Atlas tells Amazon and the reality of the actual state of affairs. Not to mention, Amazon has little experience in dealing with labor groups.

 

That's okay, Atlas has very little experience in dealing with labor groups as well...not showing up for negotiations, not negotiating in good faith, not understanding the status of the industry and our role in it, etc exemplifies the union-busting tactics they use. Just like Wal-Mart, Amazon, and many other companies in corporate America. And sorry to say, but all the government agencies that are supposed to help mediate disputes are nothing more than puppets for our corporate executives since those very mediators in many cases came from their ranks.

 

If they paid the new hires at FL West a LOT more than they're paying Atlas pilots, they could staff it. The Pilot Shortage is still in it's infancy, and it is already affecting the entire industry. Can't give a crappy carrier new aircraft...have to have the pilots to fly them!

Atlas will need to improve the current contract drastically to man all these airplanes they are wanting to fly.

PS-Delta just announced they are having problems staffing their MD-88s and 717s, as they are having a lot of new hires leaving for other airlines!!!

 

Cliff, there is not yet a pilot shortage. At the piece of crap 1 1/2 airplane overseas outfit where I work are 4 Americans who would love to come back to the US. Problem is we are all late forties and older, 3 are captains, I am an f/o. The captains don't want to start out again as a first officer. All of us are trying to get some form of retirement income and as an f/o at any US airline that will be impossible. Same goes for many other US captains flying at foreign airlines.
Once you pass a certain age (around 45-50) and your company bites the dust there are not many options in the US, going overseas is the only way. I know many US pilots working in the Middle East and Asia, most of them would love to come back. A 12000 hr B744 captain I know just went to a regional so he could be home more.
I have been applying at Atlas for ages. I finally have had 2 phone interviews. The first one I had not flown in a while, so I was advised to get some hours and try a year later, then I had worked for too many companies. Yes, my resume looks like a graveyard of failed airlines. Flown widebody for 12 years, the whale for 4 years now, been all over the globe, dodged the bullet in Afghanistan. And can't even get an interview.

Atlas would be perfect for me. I live where there is a base, a 15 minute ride to work. My family can deal with me being gone for 3 weeks, which is half of what I do now for less time off. I would be happy, wife and kids be happy --> Atlas be happy. I would stay until I retire.

 

Calls are going out for middle of June interviews. If you haven't heard anything soon, I would suggest a friendly email reminder.

 

I heard calls are going out for middle of June MIA interviews.

 

FW has one airplane and 25-ish pilots. How exactly would they staff more than, say, one more airplane? You think the FAA would make every pilot on property a check airman to handle a massive expansion?