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Old 05-05-2016, 06:06 PM
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So just saw the post about the Amazon flying. You figure they will need how many for 20 planes, average 9 pilots per plane? So 180 to start flying 2nd term 2016 and up to 2017 was it for implementation? So when would the next class start if they are taking May off? I'm kind of hoping to be in that one but would looooooove the heads up!
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Old 05-05-2016, 06:52 PM
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Arbitration and Mediation are vastly different animals. Do some reading.
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Old 05-05-2016, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER View Post
boeingdvr is absolutely correct.

It takes two sides to get a deal done. However, it was the ATLAS negotiating team who no-showed at the negotiating sessions forcing us to file for arbitration to bring them to the table. Prior to Atlas refusing to appear, the only "negotiation proposals" they brought forth were involved NO change from the current contract! They simply cut and pasted sections straight out of our current CBA. THAT is not a negotiation. THAT is an insulting waste of our valuable time and a blatant delay tactic postponing any additional costs to the company and postponing any pay raises for us. It's a WIN-LOSE situation and they're going to play that hand for years if they can.

It's pretty difficult to figure out how to make things work when the other guy won't even show up to talk.

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Not arbitration... Mediation. Arbitration is what we are trying to avoid.
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Old 05-05-2016, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 206TonTakeoff View Post
So just saw the post about the Amazon flying. You figure they will need how many for 20 planes, average 9 pilots per plane? So 180 to start flying 2nd term 2016 and up to 2017 was it for implementation? So when would the next class start if they are taking May off? I'm kind of hoping to be in that one but would looooooove the heads up!
I would double your number on the low end. Up to 500 on the high end. It really depends on monthly block hours, not so much on the number of airplanes.
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Old 05-05-2016, 08:09 PM
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Staffing model at Atlas is approx. 25 pilots per frame.
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Old 05-05-2016, 08:45 PM
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However, the twenty jets for Amazon will arrive (from a pie in the sky source!!) in stages, not all at once, and certainly not all by the end of this year. So, as much as I'd like to see our very qualified FOs get in the Left seat ASAP, it's not gonna happen overnight.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dutch747 View Post
I would double your number on the low end. Up to 500 on the high end. It really depends on monthly block hours, not so much on the number of airplanes.
And to add, the ALSO want to expand the 777 and grow the 737 for the -800freighter and VIP Charters. Where are these bodies going to come from?
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:05 AM
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And to add, the ALSO want to expand the 777 and grow the 737 for the -800freighter and VIP Charters. Where are these bodies going to come from?
The bodies won't be coming from anywhere. Management will blame us when they can't staff the operation. They will blame the union and try everything to divide the group, maybe start another certificate to threaten us, anything. I will put nothing past them.
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Old 05-06-2016, 10:38 AM
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Atlas Crew Members,

The voting period for the Strike Authorization Vote for Atlas Air crew members closed today at 12:00 noon EDT. Following are the results of the membership vote:

YES: 1,115 (99.6% of voting members)
NO: 4

Total Ballots: 1,119
Total Electorate: 1,204
Percentage Voted: 92.94%

The Strike Authorization Vote passed a membership vote by an overwhelming margin. This vote authorizes the International Brotherhood of Teamsters to call a strike against Atlas Air in the event it becomes necessary.

Fraternally,

Tim Jewell
Secretary Treasurer
APA Teamsters Local 1224
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Old 05-06-2016, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dutch747 View Post
I would double your number on the low end. Up to 500 on the high end. It really depends on monthly block hours, not so much on the number of airplanes.
Good point, I guess it's not taking into account planes set aside for reserve and the ones in mx as well. Depends on how many Amazon Prime members REALLY want their yoga balls......
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