Atlas Air Hiring
05-05-2016 | 10:57 AM
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We could care less what Atlas looks like after it is burned to the ground. All we have to lose is a couple of years of seniority. Flynn will lose his company.
... how's that for analogy carry through ... ???
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05-05-2016 | 11:30 AM
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Just a line pilot here...
I am simply stating- it takes two sides to get a deal done. The union has drawn there line with the strike vote- the CO with their - "merger" so... Why don't we all just figure out a way to make this work...one side can't simply stomp their feet and state- this is what I deserve- it doesn't and has never worked that way.
I am simply stating- it takes two sides to get a deal done. The union has drawn there line with the strike vote- the CO with their - "merger" so... Why don't we all just figure out a way to make this work...one side can't simply stomp their feet and state- this is what I deserve- it doesn't and has never worked that way.
05-05-2016 | 12:25 PM
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Just a line pilot here...
I am simply stating- it takes two sides to get a deal done. The union has drawn there line with the strike vote- the CO with their - "merger" so... Why don't we all just figure out a way to make this work...one side can't simply stomp their feet and state- this is what I deserve- it doesn't and has never worked that way.
I am simply stating- it takes two sides to get a deal done. The union has drawn there line with the strike vote- the CO with their - "merger" so... Why don't we all just figure out a way to make this work...one side can't simply stomp their feet and state- this is what I deserve- it doesn't and has never worked that way.
05-05-2016 | 02:45 PM
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Just a line pilot here...
I am simply stating- it takes two sides to get a deal done. The union has drawn there line with the strike vote- the CO with their - "merger" so... Why don't we all just figure out a way to make this work...one side can't simply stomp their feet and state- this is what I deserve- it doesn't and has never worked that way.
I am simply stating- it takes two sides to get a deal done. The union has drawn there line with the strike vote- the CO with their - "merger" so... Why don't we all just figure out a way to make this work...one side can't simply stomp their feet and state- this is what I deserve- it doesn't and has never worked that way.
You have a chance to voice your opinion until noon tomorrow. I hope you take it and vote in favor of strike authorization...that is one tool that our union leaders and the NC can use to get us to industry standard terms and conditions.
05-05-2016 | 04:22 PM
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Just a line pilot here...
I am simply stating- it takes two sides to get a deal done. The union has drawn there line with the strike vote- the CO with their - "merger" so... Why don't we all just figure out a way to make this work...one side can't simply stomp their feet and state- this is what I deserve- it doesn't and has never worked that way.
I am simply stating- it takes two sides to get a deal done. The union has drawn there line with the strike vote- the CO with their - "merger" so... Why don't we all just figure out a way to make this work...one side can't simply stomp their feet and state- this is what I deserve- it doesn't and has never worked that way.
It takes two sides to get a deal done. However, it was the ATLAS negotiating team who no-showed at the negotiating sessions forcing us to file for arbitration to bring them to the table. Prior to Atlas refusing to appear, the only "negotiation proposals" they brought forth were involved NO change from the current contract! They simply cut and pasted sections straight out of our current CBA. THAT is not a negotiation. THAT is an insulting waste of our valuable time and a blatant delay tactic postponing any additional costs to the company and postponing any pay raises for us. It's a WIN-LOSE situation and they're going to play that hand for years if they can.
It's pretty difficult to figure out how to make things work when the other guy won't even show up to talk.
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05-05-2016 | 05:06 PM
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Amazon
So just saw the post about the Amazon flying. You figure they will need how many for 20 planes, average 9 pilots per plane? So 180 to start flying 2nd term 2016 and up to 2017 was it for implementation? So when would the next class start if they are taking May off? I'm kind of hoping to be in that one but would looooooove the heads up!
05-05-2016 | 06:19 PM
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boeingdvr is absolutely correct.
It takes two sides to get a deal done. However, it was the ATLAS negotiating team who no-showed at the negotiating sessions forcing us to file for arbitration to bring them to the table. Prior to Atlas refusing to appear, the only "negotiation proposals" they brought forth were involved NO change from the current contract! They simply cut and pasted sections straight out of our current CBA. THAT is not a negotiation. THAT is an insulting waste of our valuable time and a blatant delay tactic postponing any additional costs to the company and postponing any pay raises for us. It's a WIN-LOSE situation and they're going to play that hand for years if they can.
It's pretty difficult to figure out how to make things work when the other guy won't even show up to talk.
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It takes two sides to get a deal done. However, it was the ATLAS negotiating team who no-showed at the negotiating sessions forcing us to file for arbitration to bring them to the table. Prior to Atlas refusing to appear, the only "negotiation proposals" they brought forth were involved NO change from the current contract! They simply cut and pasted sections straight out of our current CBA. THAT is not a negotiation. THAT is an insulting waste of our valuable time and a blatant delay tactic postponing any additional costs to the company and postponing any pay raises for us. It's a WIN-LOSE situation and they're going to play that hand for years if they can.
It's pretty difficult to figure out how to make things work when the other guy won't even show up to talk.
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05-05-2016 | 06:30 PM
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So just saw the post about the Amazon flying. You figure they will need how many for 20 planes, average 9 pilots per plane? So 180 to start flying 2nd term 2016 and up to 2017 was it for implementation? So when would the next class start if they are taking May off? I'm kind of hoping to be in that one but would looooooove the heads up!
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