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Old 05-07-2016, 04:20 AM
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IMO - the company made a huge mistake not getting a deal done before this Amazon announcement. It further powers the pilot group.
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Old 05-07-2016, 07:19 AM
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The MBA brain trust in Purchase are just going to their one and only play book, to be fair it worked well for them in a different time and in a very different climate. Those here long enough have been down the road of AABO, AACS and GSS and lived through furloughs and threats of furlough during the Polar/Atlas amalgamation. The stooges in Purchase really think will will fold like a cheap suit to get our hands on a bunch of 767's, send them to FW for all I care. I would rather be a First Officer with a solid contract than a Captain under the POS one they would see me have.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:40 AM
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IMO - the company made a huge mistake not getting a deal done before this Amazon announcement. It further powers the pilot group.
Did the Union know this deal was in the works? If they did then NDA's would have been signed and a component of the SEC regulations and not much could have been done.
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Old 05-08-2016, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Elusive Napkin View Post
Not arbitration... Mediation. Arbitration is what we are trying to avoid.
Wrong choice of words. Thanks for the correction.

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Arbitration and Mediation are vastly different animals. Do some reading.
No need to get snippy Whale Driver. We're all on the same team, you know.

sheesh ...
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Old 05-08-2016, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by longhauler View Post
Did the Union know this deal was in the works? If they did then NDA's would have been signed and a component of the SEC regulations and not much could have been done.
Can you clarify please? I'm not sure what you're implying here.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:28 AM
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I'd like to know if Amazon knows the state of labor/mgt relations.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:06 PM
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I'd like to know if Amazon knows the state of labor/mgt relations.
No, I'm sure they entered into multi-million, perhaps billion dollar contracts with at least two airline holding groups and who knows how many dozens of other venders without thorough due diliigence...
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Old 05-09-2016, 04:00 AM
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Anybody heard about calls going out for interviews soon? I wasn't able to go in March so I was put on the wait list for the next round. Keep hearing June but no call yet.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by gunner View Post
No, I'm sure they entered into multi-million, perhaps billion dollar contracts with at least two airline holding groups and who knows how many dozens of other venders without thorough due diliigence...
They did their "thorough due diligence", yet they signed anyway

You don't think that Atlas painted a rosy picture to Amazon?

There is a difference between what is published in industry publications, what Atlas tells Amazon and the reality of the actual state of affairs. Not to mention, Amazon has little experience in dealing with labor groups.
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed View Post
Not to mention, Amazon has little experience in dealing with labor groups.
That's okay, Atlas has very little experience in dealing with labor groups as well...not showing up for negotiations, not negotiating in good faith, not understanding the status of the industry and our role in it, etc exemplifies the union-busting tactics they use. Just like Wal-Mart, Amazon, and many other companies in corporate America. And sorry to say, but all the government agencies that are supposed to help mediate disputes are nothing more than puppets for our corporate executives since those very mediators in many cases came from their ranks.
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