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Old 11-14-2016 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Possible, but understand you may struggle more than others in training.
How so?
I can see someone coming from single pilot part 91 having a hard time. But jet time part 135? Isn't the crew concept, etc pretty close?
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Old 11-14-2016 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ATLpilot03
I am looking into Atlas...What would I expect first year pay and second year pay to be? Looking for hard numbers not just multiplying hourly rate to guarantee. Thanks!
First year I'd say 50K and 2nd year maybe 85K.
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Old 11-14-2016 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Filipinoflyer
Is it possible at atlas to get hired or even get resume looked at even without 121 or jet time? Let's say all 135 turboprop PIC time.
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Absolutely. Management loves resumes like that because it makes it tough for you to leave once they train you. Upgrade time will probably be short though if you're hired in the next 6 months.
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Old 11-14-2016 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Absolutely. Management loves resumes like that because it makes it tough for you to leave once they train you. Upgrade time will probably be short though if you're hired in the next 6 months.
Short is a relative term. When Delta is upgrading in under a year, our 4 year upgrade doesn't seem so "short".
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Old 11-14-2016 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Absolutely. Management loves resumes like that because it makes it tough for you to leave once they train you. Upgrade time will probably be short though if you're hired in the next 6 months.
Upgrade might be short, but you still won't make the money (or have the QOL) as a "quick upgrade" Captain at Atlas than you would as a second year F/O at Fedex, UPS, or Delta...or a 2nd year Captain at Delta.
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Old 11-14-2016 | 05:14 PM
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Anyone getting calls for interview this month?

Have they addressed the B747 training issues? Have failure rates dropped?

Would someone with a couple thousand jet and 1000 TPIC have problems getting through the program?
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Old 11-14-2016 | 05:33 PM
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Interview email arrived a few days ago - Dec 2nd and Dec 3rd @ Purchase NY. Apparently the "final" email interview invite has not been sent out yet - just an informal heads up and acceptance of your available date.

Did you get an invite, and what date? I plan to fly into Philly and drive up as schedule and airfares into HPN are too high. Also going cheaper on the hotel room, so I'll be a few miles away.

4000 TT / 800 TPIC / Civilian 121 Regional & Public Use PT 91 / Navy Vet
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Old 11-14-2016 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Absolutely. Management loves resumes like that because it makes it tough for you to leave once they train you. Upgrade time will probably be short though if you're hired in the next 6 months.
Upgrade time is what RJ pilots and time builders focus their lives on - at this level, relax and get the best quality of life you can get. Rushing to upgrade can be a poor move in so many ways. There really isn't any need for it, maybe money motivates some people, but I focus on The best lifestyle available.
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Old 11-14-2016 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
How so?
I can see someone coming from single pilot part 91 having a hard time. But jet time part 135? Isn't the crew concept, etc pretty close?
Some new people have been struggling lately, and not just the category you suggested (people from EFIS, crew, airline backgrounds). Training (both company and union side) has been good about giving people extra time, but some have left when they still couldn't meet the standard. Training wants people to succeed and will help out when needed, but the program as a whole isn't designed to fill gaps in your background, and they only have so much time to try and correct it. Lots of people struggle with some aspect of training. Most overcome and do just fine once they get some time out on line. Some find an obstacle they can't surmount, and it just doesn't work out.
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Old 11-14-2016 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Some new people have been struggling lately, and not just the category you suggested (people from EFIS, crew, airline backgrounds). Training (both company and union side) has been good about giving people extra time, but some have left when they still couldn't meet the standard. Training wants people to succeed and will help out when needed, but the program as a whole isn't designed to fill gaps in your background, and they only have so much time to try and correct it. Lots of people struggle with some aspect of training. Most overcome and do just fine once they get some time out on line. Some find an obstacle they can't surmount, and it just doesn't work out.
Any way to expand and give examples?
Approaches? (Visual approaches?)
Procedures?
Hand-flying?
Running QRH?
Sim sessions?


I guess I'm curious because I know they hire relatively low-time regional FOs (of which I am one) and I don't want to be in over my head.
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