I hear alot of you talking about how Atlas has to "try and keep people", and "they are going to be in trouble when people leave". I kinda find that funny. In my past life, all the company wanted was for us to leave! The company doesn'tt want a Southwest type of seniority list where nearly everyone is at or near the top of the pay scale for their seat. You want the most junior seniority list possible. Yes I agree someone leaving after the first year is going to cost Atlas money. I know accounting knows exactly the break even point on a new hire, which I am sure no one on this forum knows. Having people leave doesn't necessarily hurt the company after a point. If they could keep all the FO's at the lower end of the payscale that is a good thing for them.

Simple math which is better:
100 FO's at 6-8 year pay or 100 FO's at 3-4 year pay.

Now back to the topic. I had a buddy going down for an interview first week of August in Miami. He did the computer test first, then got the phone interview. This took about 1 week from the time he got the invite. Just a heads up, they expect you to take the test pretty soon from receiving the invite, so stay frosty on your aviation knowledge!

Woof
PS. I am hoping for more people to leave, help my chances of getting out of Anchorage and into a base where I get some Ebola flying!

 

the list made it down to our class. hopefully we'll be out of there soon man.

 

Things here are not getting better, their getting worse. There's never been a time in my 3 years here that we've (the crewmembers) have had the upper hand. We have all the leverage right now, and nothing is changing. The guys that can get hired elsewhere that have been on the fence about leaving are all starting to submit apps elsewhere. I'm not implying that those that stay will not do everything they can for a better contract, just relaying info from all the FO's I talk to.

 

is the applicant pool really large?
Prior C5 IP, 2200 TT with 1k PIC. applied in May and haven't heard a peep.

 

Yes. I would say your chances are good with your qualifications but people have applied for years before getting the call. Internal recommendations seem to help as well.

 

had 1 and put it on the PAQ

 

Make sure your rec goes into Crew Corner and follows the directions for submitting a recommendation. It'll be on the left side under "Recommend a New Crewmember."

 

New seniority list out. Roughly the same amount of pilots. Currently a 9 year upgrade...

 

Meanwhile, I've moved up 43 numbers in 6 months... It would seem the major movement is on the FO side. Go figure.

 

The current 9 years to upgrade will certainly NOT apply moving forward unless there is significant expansion. The constant hiring over the last several years has been mostly folks at the younger end of the spectrum. A new hire now may not see upgrade for more than 15+ years, possibly significantly longer.

Of course, the attrition numbers to other carriers will have a big impact as well.