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05-29-2014 | 11:19 AM
#8581
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From: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
Every one is under a three-year seat lock for equipment, not crew base. I recently said I'd love for anyone who is called in the next few months for the 747 to say they'd prefer to wait for a 767 class instead - was that what you meant?
05-29-2014 | 11:37 AM
#8582
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05-29-2014 | 01:33 PM
#8583
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ESPECIALLY when the hiring was a little more fast paced. Pilot A, hired in one month, on the 767. Pilot B, hired the next month on the 744. For years 2 and 3, pilot B out earns pilot A, and Pilot A can do NOTHING ABOUT IT.
Probably just another typical case of airline pilot senioritis. "I'm senior, won't affect me, so whatever", etc.
05-30-2014 | 12:45 PM
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Or, as happened last year, they would start a 747 class on Monday and a 767 class on Tuesday with the sole intent of preventing individuals from having the opportunity to select equipment type.
05-30-2014 | 02:24 PM
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Unfortunately I am pretty sure that is how they are going to fill all 747 slots going forward and keep 767 guys from transferring over. Nothing in the contract preventing this to keep training cost down.
05-30-2014 | 02:33 PM
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From: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
Sorry, I don't follow. Once the seat locks expire, how exactly would they prevent 767 guys from bidding over? The example he gave was for new-hire classes.
05-30-2014 | 03:57 PM
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05-30-2014 | 04:50 PM
#8588
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Well, anything is possible. Especially, if you guys read the latest email from Carlson. They want cooperation and "flexibility" yet a Chief Pilot position opens up and from what I understand there was NO vacancy announcement. Wouldn't you think that with a seniority list of over 1000 that someone, MAYBE, would have liked to at least interview for the position?????
Even if they still picked the x-Delta guy at least they would have done the politically correct thing of interviewing candidates. But instead bring in this guy (not saying he's not qualified) who hasn't seen ACMI/CMI non-scheduled ops. Kinda of a kick in the groin when they are wanting cooperation, don't ya think?
Even if they still picked the x-Delta guy at least they would have done the politically correct thing of interviewing candidates. But instead bring in this guy (not saying he's not qualified) who hasn't seen ACMI/CMI non-scheduled ops. Kinda of a kick in the groin when they are wanting cooperation, don't ya think?
05-30-2014 | 05:17 PM
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From: Knuckle-dragging line pilot
Even so, in a "normal" year we lose 50+ to retirements/attrition, and we all know attrition is going to spike this year.
They can delay, but probably not by much.
05-30-2014 | 05:55 PM
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I agree. I think the amount of 747 open time for both CAs and FOs is pretty telling. They'd have to hire enough before the seat locks start expiring (big group in September and October on the FO side) to not only catch up to the lack of staffing on that side, but overstaff it. I just don't see it happening, but of course, I've said that before in this industry.
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