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Old 06-01-2014, 11:14 AM
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FYI: Gateway'd thru CVG today. They now have Known Crewmember, as of 2 days ago.
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:29 PM
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FYI: Gateway'd thru CVG today. They now have Known Crewmember, as of 2 days ago.
Sweet! Never thought we'd see it there since the pax traffic levels are pretty low.
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Old 06-01-2014, 04:32 PM
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Any idea of the class sizes? How many are in the May class?
5/19 class has 11 new-hires and one CA returning from medical leave. 3 RJ drivers (one with prior MIL and ACMI time as an FE), 4 MIL guys, 2 ACMI World guys, 1 Emirates 777 guy, and 1 pure corporate background. We're all ANC for now.
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:44 AM
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With any luck I'll be send in my application soon. Not too far off from mins.
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv View Post
Sorry, I don't follow. Once the seat locks expire, how exactly would they prevent 767 guys from bidding over? The example he gave was for new-hire classes.
I think the theory is that in order for the 3 year 76 guys to bid over there have to be vacancies in the 74 right seat. If the 74 right seat is fully staffed or even over staffed these vacancies would be minimal and the exodus from the 76 right seat would be more "controllable" from a training/staffing standpoint.

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Old 06-02-2014, 10:26 AM
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True, DC8, but I'm a bit more hopeful...My opinion is that hiring will continue, and as long as there is a new hire class in the pipeline, they cannot stop the 767 pilots (well, the FOs at least) from being awarded a higher paying aircraft.
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Old 06-03-2014, 12:32 PM
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I am sure they will find a way to keep us on the 767 once it's starts costing them money. Until then we are all just complaining pilots without a cause
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Old 06-03-2014, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhino12 View Post
I am sure they will find a way to keep us on the 767 once it's starts costing them money.(
This attitude is what will allow that to happen. The statement from every Atlas pilot should be "Under no circumstance will we allow them to keep us from our contractually negotiated right to a seat." I hope if they push it that everyone stands up for their cause.
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Old 06-03-2014, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SVA402 View Post
This attitude is what will allow that to happen. The statement from every Atlas pilot should be "Under no circumstance will we allow them to keep us from our contractually negotiated right to a seat." I hope if they push it that everyone stands up for their cause.
*thumbs up*

There is no way to keep us out of 747 vacancies unless we vote to amend the CBA in some way.

And really, the idea that a single rate would fix all this is incorrect; 747 pilots would still make more due to greater block credit (they can break rig this way), and hazardous duty pay. Also, I want a bunk.
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:54 PM
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That's not an attitude -- rather a fact. Think I am happy making 15% less a month than a junior guy to me? No. But be honest with yourself...it's not costing the company a dime while we complain about it. We will see what happens once seat lock starts coming up in sept and see where the movement is. If there are hurdles to getting out of the 76 I think you will see an uproar from the "other" pilot group at atlas and if still no change an exodus to legacies/fdx/ups. It's going to be a buyers market soon.

The problem is with our union who is 747 centric and it doesn't bother most of the pilots in the group. Solidarity?? Hard when there are two pilots - the 747 pilot group and the ones that wish they were on the 747 with junior guys behind them.
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