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Old 05-28-2014, 01:56 PM
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As long as you aren't bound by any sort of contractual seat lock you can bid for anything. Getting it depends upon your seniority vs the others bidding for the same thing and whether there are openings available for what you're bidding. In other words, you can't bump anyone out of a position (unless your current base or airplane is being done away with) but if there's a slot open it's up for grabs.
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Old 05-28-2014, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rmr1992 View Post
Anybody have any insight on what kind of movement they think we will have amongst the bases with the opening of the base at Paine Field? I wanna say its 15 CA and 20 FOs... Also, the announcement didn't address if other bases would shrink or if this is essentially an expansion. Bid closes on 31st with results due out by 15 June from what I remember. Any thoughts on this?
Last word that I heard was that it will not result in any position loss in a domicile but will be instead filled with movement. In other words, an FO from JFK goes to PAE, JFK will have an open position to be fill with a current 747 FO and the leftover will go to a new hire.

But, that's what has been said, whether it will be like that in the end remains to be seen. The Union talked to mgmt about our poolies and how they should be removed and put in a class before the most recent interviewees are placed in a class but that doesn't seem to be working out as advertised either.
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Old 05-28-2014, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr View Post
As the 767 seat locks expire, would new-hire FO's currently on 747 ANC theoretically be able to bid to the 767 JFK? Some may be willing to trade the QOL for the $$.
A 747 FO can't bid lower-paying equipment until the 3-year seat lock expires. A 767 FO, however, could bid up if, say, the 777 ever shows up.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:49 AM
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A 747 FO can't bid lower-paying equipment until the 3-year seat lock expires. A 767 FO, however, could bid up if, say, the 777 ever shows up.
So, are new hires in the 747 under a three year seat lock? Reason I am asking is a previous post seemed to indicate you could bid for a 767 position (if a vacancy exists, of course) but your response now leads me to believe a 747 new hire is bound by a seat lock.
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Old 05-29-2014, 09:51 AM
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Anyone have info on the size of the 5/19 and/or 6/9 new hire classes?
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Old 05-29-2014, 10:33 AM
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05/19 class, I think I counted eleven. World, Military, and at least one Expressjet. There was also an EK guy. Several seemed to be from ANC.
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr View Post
So, are new hires in the 747 under a three year seat lock? Reason I am asking is a previous post seemed to indicate you could bid for a 767 position (if a vacancy exists, of course) but your response now leads me to believe a 747 new hire is bound by a seat lock.
Yes, captainv was referring to a caveat to seat locks if new equipment is introduced into the mix. For all practical purposes, there is a 3-year seat lock.
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr View Post
So, are new hires in the 747 under a three year seat lock? Reason I am asking is a previous post seemed to indicate you could bid for a 767 position (if a vacancy exists, of course) but your response now leads me to believe a 747 new hire is bound by a seat lock.
Every one is under a three-year seat lock for equipment, not crew base. I recently said I'd love for anyone who is called in the next few months for the 747 to say they'd prefer to wait for a 767 class instead - was that what you meant?
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TimmyR View Post
Yes, captainv was referring to a caveat to seat locks if new equipment is introduced into the mix. For all practical purposes, there is a 3-year seat lock.
Hope something desired in the next contract is a realistic seat lock time like other airlines have. 3 is excessive.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:33 PM
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Hope something desired in the next contract is a realistic seat lock time like other airlines have. 3 is excessive.
Issue was raised many times. NOBDY really seemed to notice it's implications, nor really care till pointed out to them. Then it's like "oh, yeah. I guess that does kinda suck, oh well........"

ESPECIALLY when the hiring was a little more fast paced. Pilot A, hired in one month, on the 767. Pilot B, hired the next month on the 744. For years 2 and 3, pilot B out earns pilot A, and Pilot A can do NOTHING ABOUT IT.

Probably just another typical case of airline pilot senioritis. "I'm senior, won't affect me, so whatever", etc.
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