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Old 08-18-2016 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
Is it true that if you haven't broken the monthly guarantee you get paid by the rig ? (4.85 /day)

Does this trump the monthly guarantee of 50 hrs in the first year ?

To make things a bit clear, say I was gone for 17 days but flew 30 hrs only.

Do I get paid 50 hrs or (17×4.85) hrs for that month ?

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You get paid the greater of Credit, Rig, of Guarantee. So in your example you would be paid on Rig or 4.95 hours for each hour you were away from base (That's very generic definition, but it is the gist.)
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Old 08-18-2016 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by seattlepilot
Is it true that if you haven't broken the monthly guarantee you get paid by the rig ? (4.85 /day)

Does this trump the monthly guarantee of 50 hrs in the first year ?

To make things a bit clear, say I was gone for 17 days but flew 30 hrs only.

Do I get paid 50 hrs or (17×4.85) hrs for that month ?

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(17x4.85) is what you will get paid; but, because of the start times and end times, (start day and end day being half days for example) you'd more realistically be looking at 16 days worth of pay, so, a little over 77 hours is what you would be paid for the month in that scenario.
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Old 08-18-2016 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Elusive Napkin
You get paid the greater of Credit, Rig, of Guarantee. So in your example you would be paid on Rig or 4.95 hours for each hour you were away from base (That's very generic definition, but it is the gist.)
Let's be real. No one ever breaks rig. It's happened before but the exception not the rule. You are a salaried employee at 4.85 a day. End of story.
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Old 08-18-2016 | 09:01 AM
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767 - sit R2 someplace then get sent home early for unpaid R1 and make guarantee, never break the incredibly low guarantee. Enjoy your worst pay in the industry! Tada!
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Old 08-18-2016 | 11:58 AM
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The rig is TAFB (in hours)/4.95. Below is an example of a line with a single 15 day trip. The CRT (at the bottom) pays 69.43 hours.

Crew Route Statistics
Block Time : 23:30 DH Hours : 45:30 Required Rest : 67:40 hours
Duty Time : 108:40 Night Hours : 2:00 Next Posble Duty : Sat01Oct at 11:00
FDP : 45:30 TAFB : 343:35 (14 days & 7:35 hours
Credit Hours : 39.45 Crew Complement : 1CA 1FO
CRT Rig : 69.43
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Old 08-18-2016 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiplash6
Let's be real. No one ever breaks rig. It's happened before but the exception not the rule. You are a salaried employee at 4.85 a day. End of story.
I've worked at Atlas for almost 5 years and have broken for hours twice. One was on a prorated guarantee due to Mil leave. This statement is very true. Atlas's scheduling is way too inefficient to schedule pilots for more than 75 hours in 17 days.
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Old 08-19-2016 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
I've worked at Atlas for almost 5 years and have broken for hours twice. One was on a prorated guarantee due to Mil leave. This statement is very true. Atlas's scheduling is way too inefficient to schedule pilots for more than 75 hours in 17 days.
Which is fine. I don't mind drinking Mai Thais instead of flying in a smelly cargo plane, but they leave me no incentive to make that 16 hour cincy to Incheon long-haul. I'm going do with my damndest to wiggle out of it. I'm going to do my least around here if it pays the same to do so. That's it and that's all.
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Old 08-20-2016 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Whiplash6
Which is fine. I don't mind drinking Mai Thais instead of flying in a smelly cargo plane, but they leave me no incentive to make that 16 hour cincy to Incheon long-haul. I'm going do with my damndest to wiggle out of it. I'm going to do my least around here if it pays the same to do so. That's it and that's all.
Truth. The rig has its pros and cons.

I'm right now being paid to do nothing in SAN for four days.

Otoh, since CRT doesn't accrue during training (how in the BLUE **** did that get in a contract...) therefore it is Unpaid if you conflict bid...
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Old 08-21-2016 | 06:38 AM
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Does Atlas carry ride-along mechanics like Kalitta Air does?
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Old 08-21-2016 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Duessenflieger
Does Atlas carry ride-along mechanics like Kalitta Air does?
The answer is, like all things Atlas, "yes and no".

Charters to stations that do not have maintenance in place will carry a flight mechanic. Same with loadmasters.
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