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Old 08-29-2016, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SD3FR8DOG View Post
Training is what 2 months, your saying folks are waiting 3 months minimum from the type to starting IOE?
Yes. I didn't complete IOE until July. I started in Feb.

I've GROSSED $14k and change so far this year. You should really be aware of what you're getting yourself into if/when you come here.
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Old 08-29-2016, 05:29 PM
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Southwest pilots just landed a new deal while Atlas management continues to play the negotiation delay game and practices an adversarial relationship with their pilots.

The future at Atlas Air is looking pretty bleak right about now.
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Old 08-29-2016, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BYOB View Post
Yes. I didn't complete IOE until July. I started in Feb.

I've GROSSED $14k and change so far this year. You should really be aware of what you're getting yourself into if/when you come here.
Ok sorry for all the questions, but...

I thought the $1600/month pay ended after 4 months or the end of IOE, whichever happened first? And don't you get per diem during training as well?

How many times did you have to go back to the sim (re-qual etc) during your lengthy wait to finish IOE?

During your wait for IOE did they give you a solid timeline (yeah, yeah, I know it's Atlas) or was it more of a 'maybe next week'?

Thanks.
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Old 08-29-2016, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies View Post
Ok sorry for all the questions, but...

I thought the $1600/month pay ended after 4 months or the end of IOE, whichever happened first? And don't you get per diem during training as well?

How many times did you have to go back to the sim (re-qual etc) during your lengthy wait to finish IOE?

During your wait for IOE did they give you a solid timeline (yeah, yeah, I know it's Atlas) or was it more of a 'maybe next week'?

Thanks.
$1600/month for 4 months OR completion of IOE. I went the full 4 months. $1600/month is $800 per paycheck, minus the deductions of 401k, health insurance, union dues, AK insurance (regardless of whether you live there or not), plus all the other deductions. You're looking at $5-600 take home pay every two weeks.

Yes, you do receive per diem, but you don't receive the per diem payout until the end of the month prior. If you start Sept. 1st and spend all month in MIA, you won't see that per diem payout until the last paycheck of Oct.

I completed IOE with just days to spare, literally. I know of several pilots that started IOE and expired before having to go back for training before completing IOE.

There is no solid timeline on ANYTHING related to the training here. You may be called 5 days after going home to start IOE, or you may sit at home for 5 months as one of my 767 buddies did. He didn't start OE until he finally called. We honestly think they forgot about him. He did one leg in the 767 and had to go back to the schoolhouse before he could finish IOE. The amazing thing is, he started at Atlas BEFORE I did.

Let that sink in. I've taken home $2,500 in the month of August. Regional FO's are now earning more than I am. And the latest update doesn't see a contract being signed anytime soon, and I don't honestly believe that management cares.
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Old 08-29-2016, 10:39 PM
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"$1600/month for 4 months or the completion of OE".

Is that whatever comes first? And is the 4 months in addition to time spent at the training center??? So you could conceivably spend 6-7 months on this type of money.

The Part135 carrier I used to work at paid more in training.

Anybody interview recently?
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Old 08-30-2016, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SD3FR8DOG View Post
"$1600/month for 4 months or the completion of OE".

Is that whatever comes first? And is the 4 months in addition to time spent at the training center??? So you could conceivably spend 6-7 months on this type of money.

The Part135 carrier I used to work at paid more in training.

Anybody interview recently?

It's from date of hire to 4 months or OE completion. For the sake of clarity, let's just say training pay ends after 4 months on property, because you won't complete OE by 4 months. No way.


By they way, Allegiant is hiring and they have a much better contract.
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:50 AM
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Just spoke with a couple of 76 FO's that are 7 months into OE and not complete. Unless you have a trust fund, are independently wealthy or have a spouse with a real job, there is no earthly reason to subject yourself to this indentured slavery. There are so many better options out there now including some of the regionals sadly. Shameful situation, truly shameful. We used to be the cream of the crap.......now we are just crap.
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:02 AM
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A 747 FO I talked to this week just applied at Allegiant...
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Old 08-30-2016, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tuktukdriver View Post
A 747 FO I talked to this week just applied at Allegiant...
WOW! To give up a 747 for a lowly MD80...... Not too bright.
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Old 08-30-2016, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXative View Post
WOW! To give up a 747 for a lowly MD80...... Not too bright.
This is a joke.... right?!? He's flying it, not buying it!
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