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Old 02-22-2017, 08:14 AM
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There are a lot of things that I don't say out of fear of reprisal. There are things that I could say that would out my anonymity in a heart beat.

For anyone considering Atlas, think about something as small/ "trivial" as this. The company purposely negotiates breakfast out of room rates even if it has no effect on cost. They even tried to force one of our German hotels to cancel our breakfast, but he stood up for us and told them he would charge them more to deny us breakfast.

But don't let the $66 million burn a hole in your pockets boys...
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Old 02-22-2017, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Davetastic View Post
please, no name calling.......it violates the rules of the forum.



Seriously though, I thought it interesting that you chose to quote me saying that I don't believe unsubstantiated claims, therefore, you call me management. Do you believe everything you read?
I didn't call you management, just that they would appreciate what you are doing here. Thought pointing out your error interpreting my post may help you better pick apart all the literal meanings and possible exaggerations of negative posts about the company.
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Old 02-22-2017, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
There are a lot of things that I don't say out of fear of reprisal. There are things that I could say that would out my anonymity in a heart beat.

For anyone considering Atlas, think about something as small/ "trivial" as this. The company purposely negotiates breakfast out of room rates even if it has no effect on cost. They even tried to force one of our German hotels to cancel our breakfast, but he stood up for us and told them he would charge them more to deny us breakfast.

But don't let the $66 million burn a hole in your pockets boys...

^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^

...is what factual data looks like, and how to say it.
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Old 02-22-2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by plift View Post
I didn't call you management, just that they would appreciate what you are doing here. Thought pointing out your error interpreting my post may help you better pick apart all the literal meanings and possible exaggerations of negative posts about the company.

Thanks very much. Keep at it....as will I.
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Old 02-22-2017, 12:07 PM
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Anyone from the Dec 2nd interview group - PM me for info.
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Old 02-23-2017, 05:20 AM
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Earnings report out******

They highlight record revenue year over year.....

Very quietly mention addition of southern air later. In addition to:

-increase liabilities
-alarming substantial decrease in cash
-20 million in mx apparently pushed into 2017 Q1....their words imply.
-overall decrease in revenue per block hour almost completely across the board.

Here's a thought. Negotiate an industry standard contract= substantial decrease in training costs after a year, sustainable expansion, increased revenue with the ability to actually pilot the existing fleet aircraft.

Mngmnt response.....court papers.
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlasPilot1 View Post
Earnings report out******

They highlight record revenue year over year.....

Very quietly mention addition of southern air later. In addition to:

-increase liabilities
-alarming substantial decrease in cash
-20 million in mx apparently pushed into 2017 Q1....their words imply.
-overall decrease in revenue per block hour almost completely across the board.

Here's a thought. Negotiate an industry standard contract= substantial decrease in training costs after a year, sustainable expansion, increased revenue with the ability to actually pilot the existing fleet aircraft.

Mngmnt response.....court papers.


Additionally on investor call "no anticipated increases in pay for 2017"
This will be a long road for a new contract.

FULL RETRO + INTREST
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:55 AM
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Hey y'all. I was with a 76 CA a few weeks back talking about Atlas and I have some questions I'd like to throw at ya.

1) I've heard new hire FO's have it hard at Atlas (long training delays, poor pay due to taxes, not a lot of trips.) is the issue with that part of the contract disputes or just general lack of flying and overhiring?

2) The CA told me his QoL is great as far as scheduling, trips, and earning potential is concerned. I know he's been with the company for a long time but I am curious how long it would take an FO to be comfortable at Atlas?

3) Getting into Atlas this very second would be either a great move if a contract is put together as a new hire today would be at the front of the wave during good flying and potentially more hiring; or the company will continue to plunge into further chaos (by your posts it seems like everything is coming apart at the seams). Would you recommend Atlas to someone at this very moment?

Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
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Old 02-23-2017, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo View Post
Hey y'all. I was with a 76 CA a few weeks back talking about Atlas and I have some questions I'd like to throw at ya.

1) I've heard new hire FO's have it hard at Atlas (long training delays, poor pay due to taxes, not a lot of trips.) is the issue with that part of the contract disputes or just general lack of flying and overhiring?

2) The CA told me his QoL is great as far as scheduling, trips, and earning potential is concerned. I know he's been with the company for a long time but I am curious how long it would take an FO to be comfortable at Atlas?

3) Getting into Atlas this very second would be either a great move if a contract is put together as a new hire today would be at the front of the wave during good flying and potentially more hiring; or the company will continue to plunge into further chaos (by your posts it seems like everything is coming apart at the seams). Would you recommend Atlas to someone at this very moment?

Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
No one is really recommending to come to Atlas at this point for the aforementioned reasons in the last several pages of posts in this thread. If you were to decide to come here, and you were to be furloughed or things did come apart at the seams, you will not be able to say you were not warned.

OTOH, you are apparently an optimist. Did I understand that correctly? That being said, I too am of the opinion that Atlas is a pure gamble and I am gambling with my career that we will get a decent enough of a contract for me to stay......EVENTUALLY.
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Old 02-23-2017, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyKilo View Post
3) Getting into Atlas this very second would be either a great move if a contract is put together as a new hire today would be at the front of the wave during good flying and potentially more hiring; or the company will continue to plunge into further chaos (by your posts it seems like everything is coming apart at the seams). Would you recommend Atlas to someone at this very moment?

Currently driving an RJ for Endeavor Air and I am shopping around for future prospects because getting hired at a legacy carrier is a dog and pony show at the moment.
IMHO, that ship has sailed and the head of the wave was back with the 2010 - 2013 new hires. Even if we were to hire and staff the 19 additional Amazon 767's, I'm not sure that today's new hire would see a quick upgrade on the 767 in the next few years like we are seeing today. Of course the company is really trying to get us to leave for greener pastures. Peering into my crystal ball we see Mr Bill Flynn stating at today's 4Qtr earnings call that he doesn't see an increase in pilot costs in 2017... translation: the company will continue to plunge into further chaos in 2017.

So would I consider recommending Atlas right now? No. I'm a 74 Captain seriously considering giving up my seniority and moving on. If that doesn't answer your question, then apply and roll the bones. Once on board, keep your head down during your probationary year and get the Union/Captain/or crew involved when the company tries to pressure you into voluntarily violating the contract or regulatory guidance.

Finally, do you have the PIC and other intangibles required to be competitive with carriers that have more enlightened management labor relations? If not, stay at Endeavor for a little while longer and make yourself competitive. If you come here, it's very possible you'll be stuck in the expansion equipment or be offered a position with SA and flounder there for a long time on substandard pay and work rules.

On a lighter note, 2 days until SEA spring training games begin! Good luck in your future WhiskeyKilo.

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