Love it!

Also, to those going in for interviews soon: Because the pilots who normally work the booth boycotted the conference, management has removed the union reps from the HR/panel section of the interview. Classy stuff.

 

I like this job. It isn't easy at all, but I really do like it. That said, what I don't like is the turn that Atlas management has made this year toward a very short sighted, dark, and greedy place.

For the past few years, there was abundant optimism and excitement as the Atlas pilots here celebrated our company's growth and successes. The rising tide was lifting all ships in our rapidly expanding fleet. Our negotiations had started and we were looking forward to a good fight to win a industry standard contract. It was all possible.

Now, the Southern Air purchase, which could have turned out to be a real morale booster and a win-win situation for Atlas pilots, Southern pilots, AND Atlas shareholders, has turned into a sucker punch designed to catastrophically erode our pay and work rules. Atlas intends to amalgamate the Atlas and Southern contracts. Amalgamate; A legal but unconscionable way to bypass contract negotiations and a despicable way to treat hard working employees.

So, yes, my app is in at United, American, and UPS. While I despise the thought of another job search and the stress that my family will have to endure while I change airlines again, I will not continue to do this extremely difficult and dangerous job while I watch my future here deteriorate.

And if you are worried about your salt intake, PM me and I'll fill you in on all of the details personally.

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I completely understand. Coming from K4 I'm well aware of how heated the atmosphere can become during negotiations. Especially with a management group completely unwilling to negotiate and quite frankly, stuck in the vortex that is YIP and completely oblivious to the outside world. Throw a merger in to the mix, well... I could only imagine. Atlas is more of an "airline" if you will. Its the schedule I prefer and the flying I like. They hired me. Yes, my apps are current and up to date with my preferred legacies, but worse case scenario Atlas is a place I can hang my hat.

 

From someone currently working under the Southern CBA, I'm about to do my third deadhead to East Asia from the east coast in 2 months. Our contract only requires an economy class seat. Yes, I said it, economy..... 45hrs in economy, for 50% pay....let that sink in for a minute.

Are chiropractors tax-deductible?

 

Thank you for all the information. I have read this entire thread because I really thought Atlas was the place for me. I'm love international flying and the variety of the schedules, as long as you get the time off to recover from it. It's really depressing watching the tone of this thread go from enthusiastic encouragement to dire warnings. While I understand that forums must be taken with a grain of salt, I learned from my experience at Emirates that sometimes these forums aren't always an exaggeration and can actually be just the first dark cloud on the horizon. It's unfortunate because I think I would enjoy the Atlas lifestyle but I can't see working for sub par wages and conditions to endure what is admittedly a difficult lifestyle. Enjoyable or not

I will be turning down any offers to test or interview with Atlas until the employees are being compensated in an fair and appropriate manner that reflects the knowledge, skills, and motivation that are necessary to make an international wide body operation successful.

Good luck in your future Atlas pilots!

 

I am of the same mind. Granted, my outlook is colored by the fact that I've only 3 1/2 years left to slip the surely bonds of earth. If I were at the other end of my career I may feel differently. At this point though, I doubt the game will be played out before I exit stage left anyway.

 

The message from our members to new pilots; If you value your career, family, and security — get a job with another airline.

^^an email recently from our Union.

 

Any 5Y pilots that were in BNA care to add what the scene looked like at the Atlas table? I've seen two pictures with just HR reps there. Did it appear as though there was any interest in Atlas from the pilots in attendance?

 

There were a few people who attended the Friday fast pass sessions (myself included). The table on the general convention floor seemed to be lightly to moderately busy throughout the time that I was around.

 

sandrich, why would you do that to yourself? Do you not have any self worth? If you keep showing up to be treated like a dog, they will in fact treat you like a dog-PERIOD!