dutch747

Not a dumb question. I have had to stay in my base after my pattern has ended because I got in too late to commercial straight out. I was afforded a hotel and transportation to the airport plus plane ticket home the next day. Wasn't even imputed (I think I was lucky not to get imputed though).

The only thing you need to know is that you would NOT accrue any CRT or perdiem because your pattern was paper wise completed upon arrival at your base.

SD3FR8DOG

Thanks much.

Stratocruzr

Some things to consider before you apply:

Training pay $1600 per mo.for 4 months or completion of IOE.
$1600 - insurance ($500 family plan) and - taxes = $750-800 per mo.

You will be on training pay for 4 months because they can't train fast enough.

Once you're free and clear of that and roll into first year guarantee 55 hours at $77 per hour. = $4235- insurance - taxes = $3000 per mo (roughly)
THEN You're imputed taxes on the cost of your gateway travel to and from base. So unless you live in ANC or LAX (Jr. Bases) you're now TAXED AGAIN for the cost of your hotel & tickets to and from work 3-4 times per mo.
3000- 500-700 (taxable travel) =$2500 per mo.

There are lots of QOL holes in this contract. Most effect your pay and your ability to retain any good pay as you gain seniority. Do your research know before you go. Lots of better options.

Oh, and getting open time or extra time, you have zero control over. Volunteer your day off, you may or may not be called. No system for open time bidding. No system for open time swapping.

captainv

When did first-year guarantee go from 50 to 55 hours?

NikeBuddy

Hard numbers: I made 36,XXX NET my first year (12 full months) at Atlas.

Surreal considering the aircraft type, and places I am operating into. Would be tolerable if you got a huge 2nd year snap-back (UPS,FDX, etc) but alas, none to be had.

Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

Screwed

Lets see......$79.60/hr. x 50 hr guarantee (x12 mos.) = 47,760

takeout out for taxes and benefits and you would be around $30-32K.

You must be one of the SOB's working the OT.



.....just kidding


...although the pay really does suck.

At least the top 5 execs are getting a $60 million bonus soon!

FUPM = F@CK YOU PAY ME!

kme9418

NET pay is not the best to use for comparison. Which health plan did you choose, how much did you contribute to your 401K, how many exemptions did you claim?

My first year GROSS W-2 wages at Atlas were $47,875 as a 747 FO. That was 2013 but the pay scale hasn't changed. I NEVER voluntarily worked on day off (VX), I was in the hostile fire pool and I did drop 3-4 days per month MIL. I got involuntarily extended into a day off maybe once.

I was paid a range of 50-73 hours/mo with an average of 61 hours of pay after completion of OE.

WacoQCF

Thanks for the hard numbers; you have successfully resolved ONE major question I had about the job.

I don't see how anyone could reasonably survive on that pay (and I was an RJ pilot for a couple years). For me it represents about a $80k pay cut albeit from a mostly undesirable flying job.

kme9418

I supplemented with USAF Reserve income so we didn't have to eat too much ramen.

SD3FR8DOG

I was thinking first year pay would be around the 65k mark. 30 odd is regional territory.