If you need only the hours and not age to get to the unrestricted ATP. Just do a few more months at the regional and you will be able to apply at the mins.

 

73 is CVG only base.

 

I'm on a debate between Frontier/Spirit. vs Atlas. Growth , opportunities (frontier merger ) etc. I got a assessment from Frontier...I have the hours for the wide bodies at Atlas(above requirements). Right now I care about financial aspect only. Retirement at F9 seems good with 15%DC. Cmparing pay rates and opportunity to make moneyW, they are pretty similar. It would be interesting to know what is ahead for Atlas. War..recession,inflation makes everything more difficult. I may stay were I'm and wait to see what happens during the next 6..12 months.

 

Do you have a CJO from them?
Apply, then decide.

 

Excellent advice. Get on board with whomever first. If you love it stay, you don’t move on to your “greener pastures.” Your dilemma will be while in training with one outfit the other or more will undoubtedly call. I think it’s a test within our industry. Nothing in this industry is concrete - maybe the red pill is the right choice, only you can decide.

 

Thanks for the help.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​2 yrs ago we didn't even know if we would have a job.

 

That must have been a very tough road and a rollercoaster of worry to go through for you and thousands upon thousands of others. Many came to Atlas and some stayed some left but it proved the stability of the cargo sector. This a very diverse company and and colorful group of flyers from all walks of life, more so than others I would guess. Current events should be a factor in many decisions being made within our industry and outside of it. Economic gains/pitfalls, pandemic, war, etc. nothing is guaranteed, every outfit can be bought, merged or disappear, we just do the best we can.

 

Atlas was parking airplanes In January of 2020. Hiring had slowed upgraded was 10 years on the 747.

Nothing last for ever- choosing atlas is like buying Tesla @ 1500 a share. Who the hell knows what Atlas will become.

If you don’t care about your QOL, sleep schedule and want to see the world for 17 days. LFG!

 

Atlas was only parking airplanes due to lack of crews…not lack of work available. We will likely see that again in the near future.

 

Technically yes parking planes, but that is a vague description on why and leads others down the wrong path is just my take. Plenty of work, lost work opportunities, lack of crews, also pulled planes back out of the desert if you will and more -8’s this year, 777’s coming on line whenever and whomever will fly them. Maybe just swap outs for older equipment, either way it’s the nature of Atlas to flex and pull back depending on the environment and they do it better than most which is a positive and a negative most definitely. Just don’t believe they’re doing it for you - it’s business as usual.

Agree, no one knew/knows what Atlas will become from its inception. QOL is in the eye of the beholder and there is much work to be done. Rolling out back on the road after only a few days off for 3-5 day multi-leg trips three or even four times a month at some other carrier is a priority for many. While 17 days is a price to pay no doubt, having a couple of weeks off is priceless at times for others. Last couple of months I did split lines to mix it up. 5 off, 11 on, 9 off, 6 on as an example. Now I will pay up front next month with a 17 day drag, but reap the back end benefits of over two weeks off playing May out correctly of course. Sleep is a strategy and now with the 32/7 it’s a tactical event. Everyone is different and this ain’t for everyone. Art 33 won’t last forever so don’t get acclimated to it, just harvest during the good times, lay low during the normal. Not a VX guy and I believe you should if $ is the priority so enjoy it while you can if you can and this won’t last forever.