What I don't think you are grasping is that Atlas already has very lucrative AMC contracts. They already are a PROVEN operation. And a very lucrative one at that.

Yes, you might well make a decision as you say. Atlas' track record of sound business decisions pretty much speaks for itself.

So the VP of Inflight at NAA "dropped" her app to Atlas. Trust me...if she was that good or talented, they would have approached her. But...assuming you have inside information...which I suspect you do not...Atlas already has an Inflight department head who already knows Atlas procedures and policies. So unless things are a train wreck...which they are not...WHY would they hire this person? Unless she wants to work as a F/A...in which case she will compete like everyone else...

I can give you one piece of information that you CAN take to the bank: Atlas will not...repeat...will not...buy any operation that will involve the merging of seniority lists. They might buy assets...and maybe even offer preferential interview and hiring opportunities...but they will not buy an operation and go through an integration process or the risk of absorbing any employee group that they haven't had the chance to screen themselves.

 

Don't doubt that in the least. But if AAWW did choose to go the "merge" route under an SOC, McCaskill Bond would say something different as far as how employees from the acquired/bought/merged company(ies) would be treated.

And IIRC, even multiple certificates under the same holding company can get sticky as well. RAH, PCL, etc.

 

Exactly right, xjt. Sure Atlas has AMC contracts. So does Global. If Atlas wants GLOBAL'S AMC contracts, they'll need GLOBAL'S assets to service them. Duh.

And as far as the Atlas Inflight Department goes, that's in IAH, correct? So IF they take NAA and the NAA crews, they'll need supervisory help in JFK, no?

You guys need to pull your head out of the sand. Organic growth won't cut it when you want to take big steps. You've said yourself that the training department is maxxed out getting rid of the classics and standing up the 767 program.

Even SWA the penultimate "internal growth" organization bit the bullet and bought AAI. What makes you think Atlas management gives a darn about what pilots think/want. Having served in the Navy with your CP (if Mikey B is still there, that is!) I can attest to the fact that HE doesn't.

You also seem to want to ignore the fact that Atlas has already approached Global about buying NAA in the past. Global told them if they wanted NAA they had to take World, too. Atlas didn't want anything to do with the MD-11s so rejected the deal.

This bankruptcy takes care of the MD-11 question and offers Atlas the passenger 744s and 767s they covet. Its too neat a package.

 

I don't think it's so much a matter of what EXACTLY AAWW management will or won't do as far as how they decide to grow.

What would be MORE important would be the scope, merger, acquisition, and successorship language that was put into the new Atlas Pilot's CBA.

ESPECIALLY as it relates to being able to operate multiple certificates under the same holdings corp, etc. If at all.

Is the Polar certificate STILL active or is it going to die out or be sold off? Does the TITAN Leasing side have an operating certificate or is just that, a leasing company?

 

I applied to Atlas last fall and haven't heard a peep. Is it fair to consider that my app isn't going anywhere?

 

xjt,
We already operate under two Certificates...Atlas and Polar. And Polar certificate will stay as it is, since it is with the Polar certificate that we fly the DHL 744 flights.

Fish,
I agree with you that Management is not likely to ask my opinion on any issue...however, like ATC said above, Atlas has a proven way that they like to run their operation, and that includes mergers.

 

The Polar certificate will stay as is, since DHL owns 49% of Polar. Titan does not have a certificate, as they are a leasing company, for the time being.

 

Thread should be re-named to ""Speculate the future of Atlas""

The earlier posts do a great job with helping guys get hired, now It's getting out of control.

 

The fundamental flaw in your argument is the assumption that Atlas must have additional AMC contracts. They don't. I also suspect you don't understand how they operate their business plan, because if you did, you'd understand the flaw in your assumptions.

However...assuming they do want more AMC business? I suspect they have better contacts with the AMC folks than you might and also suspect that given their relationship with the AMC folks, they already have a plan on the shelf ready to go.

Which explains why they make lots of money.

 

Precisely. Moderators, can we please move these merger/buyout/daily rumor posts to their own area? Then we can get back to the business of helping good people join our merry band.