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01-16-2013 | 04:23 AM

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The proposal was for C-5Ms because the TF-39 would never get civilian certification. Having flown them, I think the reliability would be what is needed. Especially if we operate them and support them differentyly than the AF. The 2 big hurdles were getting USAF approval to take the A models (1966-70) being retired for conversion and the cost of getting a civilian certification. The AF thinks having them parked in the boneyard is a great source of spare parts so they are skeptical. As for the certification, Lockheed doesn't want to front the cost without firm orders and most operators want to see that they can do it first. Kind of a stalemate.

It doubt it will never happen. While Atlas will acquire aircraft to meet a customers needs; provided the demand is there, they won't do it for a single customer unless it's a long term deal that makes sense and they see sufficient possibilities to integrate it elsewhere. And for something like this, there are way too many variables that they could get screwed on.

The one thing you will find out about this management team is that they are unlike normal airlines...they think about the risks before committing to a project. They have and will walk away without blinking an eye. That's one of the reasons we've survived and thrived.

01-16-2013 | 05:08 AM

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Olekszyk, does your first name start with a J?...were you a T-1 IP at Columbus? The student has become the teacher... I think I may know this ORF.

01-16-2013 | 05:12 AM

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The one thing you will find out about this management team is that they are unlike normal airlines...they think about the risks before committing to a project. They have and will walk away without blinking an eye. That's one of the reasons we've survived and thrived.[/QUOTE]

think about the risks ? - they have the company in debt over $1 billion -
we will see how it works out - hopefully for the best

01-16-2013 | 06:59 AM

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QUOTE=744driver;1331028]http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...g/00005527.jpg

Just sayin'...could happen!![/QUOTE]

Now J stop that! You are worse than a bunch of old ladies!

(Im just mad u beat me to it)

01-16-2013 | 08:23 AM

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think about the risks ? - they have the company in debt over $1 billion -
we will see how it works out - hopefully for the best

And you've been here on the ranch how long?

01-16-2013 | 09:02 AM

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think about the risks ? - they have the company in debt over $1 billion -
we will see how it works out - hopefully for the best[/QUOTE]

We are now a company that is 20 years old...

I came on board when we were a mere 3.5 years old (I've been here since Dec 1996)...and Chowdry and company placed an order for 12 747-400F, and options for a further 12...and put a 3.5 year old business "in debt" to the tune of nearly $3 Billion. I think it turned out fine.

So, what's your point about $1 Billion in debt? I'm missing something here...

01-16-2013 | 09:53 AM

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think about the risks ? - they have the company in debt over $1 billion -
we will see how it works out - hopefully for the best

And almost all of it is on 12 year notes at 1.7%. Somebody with a pile of money does not think it's a problem

01-16-2013 | 11:02 AM

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Anyone know the future class date schedule and pool status?

01-16-2013 | 11:21 AM

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think about the risks ? - they have the company in debt over $1 billion -
we will see how it works out - hopefully for the best

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We are now a company that is 20 years old...

I came on board when we were a mere 3.5 years old (I've been here since Dec 1996)...and Chowdry and company placed an order for 12 747-400F, and options for a further 12...and put a 3.5 year old business "in debt" to the tune of nearly $3 Billion. I think it turned out fine.

So, what's your point about $1 Billion in debt? I'm missing something here...

"This is the life you have chosen..."

01-16-2013 | 11:41 AM

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And it is the life that I'm just fine with...go work for an outfit that flies between ABC and XYZ ten times a day...no, thanks. There are those that want that...not me. I like the adventure, the great crews to fly with, and doing something very few US carriers and pilots are doing.