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#6771
However, I can tell you this with a certainty. If you are on the 74, you are qualified for every single version we fly. The -8 just happens to be a common type with the -400.
#6772
For folks wondering about schedules and how much they change, here's my current example:
25 Sep award: 4-15 Sep, ANC LAX PVG NRT NGO PVG NRT ICN HKG ANC Followed by my PT sim in Miami on my days off.
As of today: still operating within the 4 -15 Sep timeframe
Actual has been: ANC LAX PVG HKG DAC DWC so far.........
When I went to bed I was DH all the way back to ANC and sim in miami. Now after checking my schedule the Good Deal Fairy delivered: SAH BOM HKG ANC. PT sim cancelled because now my heavy rest will overlap the sim. I'm sure Dee is gonna love that. Now the sim will have to be put in somewhere later in the month or October. And since I'm on a 60 day line that I'll effect my schedule later.
In my limited time here at Atlas (6 months so far) the best advice I think you can get for a new hire with limited seniority in the bid process is to bid for time off. Not pay or destinations or hours. Don't be upset WHEN your schedule changes just be along for the ride and enjoy each new locale. I mean hey, you are in a long haul 747 flying around the world. It will be the country that changes not the state. I think its great. You're going to be paid whether you fly or not. I seems the 4.85 hr/day is usually greater than the number of hrs one flys each month. MIN Guarantee first year is 50hrs per month. I've been 68-74hrs through the summer. YMMV
Just remember not to let on to your wife/girlfriend know that you're having fun without her while getting paid to see what others go on vacation to see. It's always really hard work, sleep is hard to come by, no good restaurants, and there's no time to go out and see the sights. Oh and one more tip: if you have an iPhone with photostream enabled where those photos will go automatically back to your home computer, or better yet your AppleTV connected to a big screen TV at home, do not take pictures on your iPhone that will get you in trouble later. No my experience but a friend (not at Atlas) new to apple found out the hard way how Steve Jobs magic really works.
25 Sep award: 4-15 Sep, ANC LAX PVG NRT NGO PVG NRT ICN HKG ANC Followed by my PT sim in Miami on my days off.
As of today: still operating within the 4 -15 Sep timeframe
Actual has been: ANC LAX PVG HKG DAC DWC so far.........
When I went to bed I was DH all the way back to ANC and sim in miami. Now after checking my schedule the Good Deal Fairy delivered: SAH BOM HKG ANC. PT sim cancelled because now my heavy rest will overlap the sim. I'm sure Dee is gonna love that. Now the sim will have to be put in somewhere later in the month or October. And since I'm on a 60 day line that I'll effect my schedule later.
In my limited time here at Atlas (6 months so far) the best advice I think you can get for a new hire with limited seniority in the bid process is to bid for time off. Not pay or destinations or hours. Don't be upset WHEN your schedule changes just be along for the ride and enjoy each new locale. I mean hey, you are in a long haul 747 flying around the world. It will be the country that changes not the state. I think its great. You're going to be paid whether you fly or not. I seems the 4.85 hr/day is usually greater than the number of hrs one flys each month. MIN Guarantee first year is 50hrs per month. I've been 68-74hrs through the summer. YMMV
Just remember not to let on to your wife/girlfriend know that you're having fun without her while getting paid to see what others go on vacation to see. It's always really hard work, sleep is hard to come by, no good restaurants, and there's no time to go out and see the sights. Oh and one more tip: if you have an iPhone with photostream enabled where those photos will go automatically back to your home computer, or better yet your AppleTV connected to a big screen TV at home, do not take pictures on your iPhone that will get you in trouble later. No my experience but a friend (not at Atlas) new to apple found out the hard way how Steve Jobs magic really works.
#6773
For folks wondering about schedules and how much they change, here's my current example:
25 Sep award: 4-15 Sep, ANC LAX PVG NRT NGO PVG NRT ICN HKG ANC Followed by my PT sim in Miami on my days off.
As of today: still operating within the 4 -15 Sep timeframe
Actual has been: ANC LAX PVG HKG DAC DWC so far.........
When I went to bed I was DH all the way back to ANC and sim in miami. Now after checking my schedule the Good Deal Fairy delivered: SAH BOM HKG ANC. PT sim cancelled because now my heavy rest will overlap the sim. I'm sure Dee is gonna love that. Now the sim will have to be put in somewhere later in the month or October. And since I'm on a 60 day line that I'll effect my schedule later.
In my limited time here at Atlas (6 months so far) the best advice I think you can get for a new hire with limited seniority in the bid process is to bid for time off. Not pay or destinations or hours. Don't be upset WHEN your schedule changes just be along for the ride and enjoy each new locale. I mean hey, you are in a long haul 747 flying around the world. It will be the country that changes not the state. I think its great. You're going to be paid whether you fly or not. I seems the 4.85 hr/day is usually greater than the number of hrs one flys each month. MIN Guarantee first year is 50hrs per month. I've been 68-74hrs through the summer. YMMV
Just remember not to let on to your wife/girlfriend know that you're having fun without her while getting paid to see what others go on vacation to see. It's always really hard work, sleep is hard to come by, no good restaurants, and there's no time to go out and see the sights. Oh and one more tip: if you have an iPhone with photostream enabled where those photos will go automatically back to your home computer, or better yet your AppleTV connected to a big screen TV at home, do not take pictures on your iPhone that will get you in trouble later. No my experience but a friend (not at Atlas) new to apple found out the hard way how Steve Jobs magic really works.
25 Sep award: 4-15 Sep, ANC LAX PVG NRT NGO PVG NRT ICN HKG ANC Followed by my PT sim in Miami on my days off.
As of today: still operating within the 4 -15 Sep timeframe
Actual has been: ANC LAX PVG HKG DAC DWC so far.........
When I went to bed I was DH all the way back to ANC and sim in miami. Now after checking my schedule the Good Deal Fairy delivered: SAH BOM HKG ANC. PT sim cancelled because now my heavy rest will overlap the sim. I'm sure Dee is gonna love that. Now the sim will have to be put in somewhere later in the month or October. And since I'm on a 60 day line that I'll effect my schedule later.
In my limited time here at Atlas (6 months so far) the best advice I think you can get for a new hire with limited seniority in the bid process is to bid for time off. Not pay or destinations or hours. Don't be upset WHEN your schedule changes just be along for the ride and enjoy each new locale. I mean hey, you are in a long haul 747 flying around the world. It will be the country that changes not the state. I think its great. You're going to be paid whether you fly or not. I seems the 4.85 hr/day is usually greater than the number of hrs one flys each month. MIN Guarantee first year is 50hrs per month. I've been 68-74hrs through the summer. YMMV
Just remember not to let on to your wife/girlfriend know that you're having fun without her while getting paid to see what others go on vacation to see. It's always really hard work, sleep is hard to come by, no good restaurants, and there's no time to go out and see the sights. Oh and one more tip: if you have an iPhone with photostream enabled where those photos will go automatically back to your home computer, or better yet your AppleTV connected to a big screen TV at home, do not take pictures on your iPhone that will get you in trouble later. No my experience but a friend (not at Atlas) new to apple found out the hard way how Steve Jobs magic really works.
#6774
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Retired
Posts: 651
That is like saying that it is windy in a tornado.
The hourly pay is posted on this site. Budget for guarantee (50 hours year 1, 62 from then on). Expect to get paid by CRT (1:4.95 for TAFB). There is no meaningful average, since some equipment/bases are sitting a lot of home reserve while others are flying into their off days.
It is like the Scottish weather. If you don't like the current situation just wait a little bit.
The hourly pay is posted on this site. Budget for guarantee (50 hours year 1, 62 from then on). Expect to get paid by CRT (1:4.95 for TAFB). There is no meaningful average, since some equipment/bases are sitting a lot of home reserve while others are flying into their off days.
It is like the Scottish weather. If you don't like the current situation just wait a little bit.
#6775
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 118
Hey all, have visited the thread many times and asked all sorts of silly questions. You all know this is the most positive forum out there! Here is another silly question, for those of you in your 30s and 40s who have been at Atlas for around 5 years or more. Are things like the retirement benefits or long haul schedules (lack of sleep) or pay a big enough deal where you would consider moving to another carrier if the opportunity was there? Really I'm wondering, if UPS, United, Delta offered you a job, would you take it no question, or would it be a hard decision and a serious possibility you would say "no thanks"?
This is really one question, I'm being a little wordy. Trying not to upset anybody, just very much curious and serious.
This is really one question, I'm being a little wordy. Trying not to upset anybody, just very much curious and serious.
#6776
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: 747 CA
Posts: 52
Hey all, have visited the thread many times and asked all sorts of silly questions. You all know this is the most positive forum out there! Here is another silly question, for those of you in your 30s and 40s who have been at Atlas for around 5 years or more. Are things like the retirement benefits or long haul schedules (lack of sleep) or pay a big enough deal where you would consider moving to another carrier if the opportunity was there? Really I'm wondering, if UPS, United, Delta offered you a job, would you take it no question, or would it be a hard decision and a serious possibility you would say "no thanks"?
This is really one question, I'm being a little wordy. Trying not to upset anybody, just very much curious and serious.
This is really one question, I'm being a little wordy. Trying not to upset anybody, just very much curious and serious.
I'm 43 and just passed my first year at Atlas. Flying the -400. Can only speak to the sleep part. But I've never slept so much "on the job" in my life. I hear the classic was a different story but for the most part when we show up in the -400 we are ready to go. As soon as you learn to sleep when you're tired and eat when you're hungry the job becomes a whole lot easier.
#6777
There was an extraordinary concentration of suits today.
This is an airline. This morning's solid direction is on revision 112 by 3PM.
#6778
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 611
Hey all, have visited the thread many times and asked all sorts of silly questions. You all know this is the most positive forum out there! Here is another silly question, for those of you in your 30s and 40s who have been at Atlas for around 5 years or more. Are things like the retirement benefits or long haul schedules (lack of sleep) or pay a big enough deal where you would consider moving to another carrier if the opportunity was there? Really I'm wondering, if UPS, United, Delta offered you a job, would you take it no question, or would it be a hard decision and a serious possibility you would say "no thanks"?
This is really one question, I'm being a little wordy. Trying not to upset anybody, just very much curious and serious.
This is really one question, I'm being a little wordy. Trying not to upset anybody, just very much curious and serious.
#6779
34?...daymn...aren't there laws against that (coming from a guy knocking on the big 50 soon...ouch!!).
Good for you, dude...only thing I would like to remind everyone (when comparing the Legacy carriers, FDX, UPS, ABX, etc) is that we are only on our second negotiated CBA (both former Atlas as well as former Polar crews)...whereas the others have mature CBAs, so they are much farther along in the protections, benefits, and provisions, than we have at Atlas.
So, keep that in mind and make your decision using all the information at your disposal...
And, good luck.
Good for you, dude...only thing I would like to remind everyone (when comparing the Legacy carriers, FDX, UPS, ABX, etc) is that we are only on our second negotiated CBA (both former Atlas as well as former Polar crews)...whereas the others have mature CBAs, so they are much farther along in the protections, benefits, and provisions, than we have at Atlas.
So, keep that in mind and make your decision using all the information at your disposal...
And, good luck.
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