sandstorm

What is the cause for this resigned and defeatist attitude that you speak of? What are guys saying?

Hopefully it is a small minority of the pilot group. It's up to the union and your fellow pilots to educate those that don't care or know any better. Hopefully you guys get the improvements that you seek and deserve on your next contract in a couple years and help make Atlas a better place to work for those already there, as well as for those of us ready to join your group.

chip1

+1. This is EXACTLY how it sounds on 1224, DC 8. Backed up with the excuse of, "I'm just being a realist." Insane.

jetjock6

Just remember, with the addition of the Polar pilot group and the hiring that has happened in the last few years, the "old school Atlas" is the minority. You have a vote, use it. Just saying.

CandlerKid

Just read the union forum. Hilarious. I pray that they aren't serious and are just trying to get a reaction. All that talk like that does is unify the junior pilots.

744driver

Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner. Great point...and yes, the culture has changed in the last three or so years. And keep hammering these very points we have been making everyday, and we will prevail...we do have the votes needed to drive the discussion.

TimmyR

+1

Cheers

C5nwhaleguy

silly computer

C5nwhaleguy

you have to look at it from their prospective...they are at top pay but don't need to be top of the food chain. They just want theirs before us young guys confront what they've swallowed for years. QOL issues/top pay are not important to them as they've been doing this for more than a decade with or without a union. They value job security and top pay til retirement. They don't see the benefit of rocking the boat and gaining back all which they've watched their bretheren since 2000 elsewhere were forced to give up. The senior guys didn't give up that much and watched their peers elsewhere retirements dry up, hiring advancements, and bancruptcies with 24 yr US air FO's still on A330s. Lets face it you didn't come to atlas or ACMI because u valued QOL and top Pay. This is for us young guys to change or vote with out feet and go across the street. This will be a very important contract for us. Strength in numbers and educate don't alienate no matter which side you are on!!!!

JerrySpringer

While I agree with the sentiment, there's never been all that much to give up.

Although it's easy to spot the problem children as they toss in "As Michael used to say, 'this is the life you've chosen'."

thestableone

I know this is completely off topic, but I also know that quite a few pilots that use multiple currencies will see this and hopefully be able to help me. I need one of the little black currency organizers. It has about 7 zippers for all the different coins and folding money. I can't seem to find one and when I ask people who have, well , they don't remember where they got them.