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Old 01-24-2014 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by twoshadesblue
I held MIA in two months and JFK within a year! Obviously, at the bottom Only could/can hold VTO lines.
What does "VTO" mean? Some type of reserve line?

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Old 01-24-2014 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Hoss
What does "VTO" mean? Some type of reserve line?
They're similar to a "buildup" or a "relief" line you might have seen at other carriers. They take a mishmash of trips dropped for vacations, training, LOAs, etc. and build lines out of them. They're bid and awarded after the regular line awards come out. Coinflip if they're good or not.

VTO lines can have reserve duty, but you have the same contractual rights as a regular or hybrid lineholder.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruise
That's such a BS way to determine class seniority. So the young guy, that has decades to fly, but is fortunate to have a low SSN becomes more senior, and remains that way, to the older guy that'll retire first?

Yeah, that's a great method.....
Apparently it was the most reliable "random process", everything else, including using age, is "discrimination." Even a "larger than average" person that occupies 2 seats worth of seats yet purchases only one and you have to sit next to him, calling him "fat" and forcing him to purchase 2 seats is "discrimination." But I agree with you, I personally would be more than happy to go by age and let the elder people in the class get the better seniority.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuninonis66
Any updates/news on when the next round of e-mails will go out?
This too counts as information they do not tell us however there is a somewhat unreliable rumor that there may be an interview class held in February either the second or third week... something between the 3rd and 24th as those are the dates classes start. If true perhaps there will be some calls/invites going out rather soon.

Seems the new process is to first invite you to the online assessment (100 question test) and those ARE going out right now. Most likely they are preparing for interview classes soon.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 03:52 PM
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So how the heck does this work. Saw an Atlas plane in Tianjin (China).... Operating as 'Qantas operated by Atlas'..... So let me get this straight, its a US registered airplane, operating for an Australian carrier in China....?
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Old 01-24-2014 | 04:15 PM
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Feel free not to apply if you don't like the BS regarding the SSN seniority. It's probably BS that a younger guy hired before you shouldn't be senior to you too, right?
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Old 01-24-2014 | 04:40 PM
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That flight was a charter, not for Qantas, but using one of the aircraft normally dedicated to the QF contract. Sometimes the customer (Qantas, Etihad, etc) book the charter, sometimes its another customer contracting directly with Atlas.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 06:45 PM
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I've been old in a class and had a high last four in another. I would say the least discriminatory method is just to draw a name from a hat. No one does that. My most recent class I was 5 of 14 and after 10 years I'm #1 of 2 remaining. My point is it changes and it is only among 10-12 guys so in the grand scheme of things it may not matter as much as we worry about.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 07:09 PM
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As an outsider watching this thread for some time, it seems something must be stirring in Miami. Info flow slowed after the summer and has been fairly minimal since the pipeline stopped back in Sep timeframe. Good luck to all applying.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Hoss
What does "VTO" mean? Some type of reserve line?
I assumed it meant "Vacation, Training, Other".....People who get VTO get to rebid after the regular bid on the flying "released" by those lineholders who have vacation, among other things....

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