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Old 03-03-2014 | 11:43 AM
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In regards to future hiring and Atlas's new mins, is it possible Atlas is realizing a lot of their current pilots/applicants will be qualified for the majors and may jump ship the day that Delta/United/AmeriWays/Alaska calls them? Perhaps they are looking for lower time guys that they can confidently invest money and training in, knowing they can at least get a few years out of them? I only ask because why else would they put a stipulation to ALSO accept 1500hr/141grad applicants, with a turbo jet rating requirement maybe to prove they can hack it in training?

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Old 03-03-2014 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sandrich
In regards to future hiring and Atlas's new mins, is it possible Atlas is realizing a lot of their current pilots/applicants will be qualified for the majors and may jump ship the day that Delta/United/AmeriWays/Alaska calls them? Perhaps they are looking for lower time guys that they can confidently invest money and training in, knowing they can at least get a few years out of them? I only ask because why else would they put a stipulation to ALSO accept 1500hr/141grad applicants, with a turbo jet rating requirement maybe to prove they can hack it in training?
IMO you may be overthinking what drives decisions at Atlas HR. My guess would be that lowering mins is a result of fewer resumes, some pilots pulling out of interviews and class dates, and the exit interviews of the pilots who have already left. Simple math.

Beyond that, my recent unscientific poll of the younger pilots here indicates that (surprisingly) there are many folks that I would consider highly likely to move over to the majors who have decided to remain at Atlas ... at least for the time being. Atlas seems to interview and hire a broad spectrum of applicants. Consequently, the retired military pilots who already have a pension will probably stay, the older previously furloughed 121 cargo pilots will probably stay, and of the younger crowd who would theoretically jump ship, quite a few it seems simply like flying for Atlas and may stay (at least until they see what the next contract provides - this will be a critically important event for our pilot group).

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Old 03-03-2014 | 05:15 PM
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Any insights as to where new hires will likely be based? How does IAH stack up to the other bases? I've worked with a retired Atlas pilot at CAE Simuflite and he always spoke very highly of Atlas, now that I'm above their minimums I'm looking to apply...but couldn't feasibly do it if I were to be based in ANC.
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Old 03-03-2014 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWAviatior
Any insights as to where new hires will likely be based? How does IAH stack up to the other bases? I've worked with a retired Atlas pilot at CAE Simuflite and he always spoke very highly of Atlas, now that I'm above their minimums I'm looking to apply...but couldn't feasibly do it if I were to be based in ANC.
IAH is extremely senior.



...ANC is extremely junior.


But atleast you don't have to worry about commuting?
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Old 03-03-2014 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWAviatior
Any insights as to where new hires will likely be based? How does IAH stack up to the other bases? I've worked with a retired Atlas pilot at CAE Simuflite and he always spoke very highly of Atlas, now that I'm above their minimums I'm looking to apply...but couldn't feasibly do it if I were to be based in ANC.
ANC for the 747. CVG for the 767. 767 should become the junior airplane starting this fall.
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Old 03-03-2014 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWAviatior
Any insights as to where new hires will likely be based? How does IAH stack up to the other bases? I've worked with a retired Atlas pilot at CAE Simuflite and he always spoke very highly of Atlas, now that I'm above their minimums I'm looking to apply...but couldn't feasibly do it if I were to be based in ANC.
It's completely feasible. Company buys a ticket for your commute. Granted, some bases may be more convenient for you. Just bid what you want, commute stress-free with a paid ticket until you get the base you'd like. Good luck.
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Old 03-03-2014 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
IMO you may be overthinking what drives decisions at Atlas HR. My guess would be that lowering mins is a result of fewer resumes, some pilots pulling out of interviews and class dates, and the exit interviews of the pilots who have already left. Simple math.

Beyond that, my recent unscientific poll of the younger pilots here indicates that (surprisingly) there are many folks that I would consider highly likely to move over to the majors who have decided to remain at Atlas ... at least for the time being. Atlas seems to interview and hire a broad spectrum of applicants. Consequently, the retired military pilots who already have a pension will probably stay, the older previously furloughed 121 cargo pilots will probably stay, and of the younger crowd who would theoretically jump ship, quite a few it seems simply like flying for Atlas and may stay (at least until they see what the next contract provides - this will be a critically important event for our pilot group).

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Thanks for the info. I threw my stuff in just for the hell of it. Im only at 1550tt-- 2+ years Part 121 (1250 turbine multi); ATP, CFI; 141 University Degree; E170/190, SF340, BE1900 Types. Not very competitive, but who knows...
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Old 03-04-2014 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by seoceancrosser
Most 767 folks can come over and hold a decent quality of life in most bases on the 747 along with the pay bump that goes with it with 3+ years seniority.
You mean working 17 days, or working 17 days???
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Old 03-04-2014 | 07:59 AM
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Thanks for the info everyone...didn't realize the company bought a ticket, making a commute much less stressful. I'll be putting in my app this week, I'm above the mins, but still fairly low on TT. Hopefully three PIC type ratings, two SIC ratings, and a Masters Degree in Aviation Technology will make up for my lack of TT.
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Old 03-04-2014 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DFWAviatior
Thanks for the info everyone...didn't realize the company bought a ticket, making a commute much less stressful. I'll be putting in my app this week, I'm above the mins, but still fairly low on TT. Hopefully three PIC type ratings, two SIC ratings, and a Masters Degree in Aviation Technology will make up for my lack of TT.
If said ticket and hotel are at your base, you will be taxed on it as if it were income.

Travel at the beginning of your pattern is on your time off thus making some months 18 days or so.

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