Ah, but what does it cost to train each new hire to replace each defector, especially after August when each 747 FO who leaves could trigger two training events?


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The old cost was about $20k for a 747-400 type, not sure what a 767 type costs. That cost was if you went and bought one. Our training center is up and running 24/7 anyway, so not sure what our actual cost is. J.C. has said that if an NH stays a year, they break even. Now the double thing adjusts that.

 

Yeah... The training costs sound like a big deal to us but to them I'm sure they're not. Add in the fact that a new hire gets $75 an hour and a 50 hour guarantee and I'm sure it's not that big of a deal at all.

In reality, the only way that I think they'll be concerned about attrition will be if they can't move airplanes. I bet it is a concern if they have contracts out there that they can't fill because they know they can't grow our pilot group too...

 

I am JFK 747. I would say 1/2 the time I leave on my last day off, and 1/2 the time I leave the first day of work. Normally I get home one day early. Sometimes I get home 2 days early (or more) and sometimes I get home on my last day of work.

Sometimes there is a backup flight, sometimes there is not. I normally call travel 3-4 days ahead of time and request a specific flight, usually on DAL, and I normally get the flight I want.

I have asked for alternate travel at the end of my trip (Alternate Travel is to be airlined after your trip ends to a location other than your gateway) a few times, and have always gotten the alternate airport that I requested.

We currently have a "Base" AND a "Gateway".
I have been promoting a change in our next contract to Worldwide Gateway Basing (getting rid of our Bases, and making our Base, and our "Tax Home" our Gateway). If we don't get Worldwide Gateway Basing, my second choice would be Domestic Gateway Basing. The reason I am promoting Gateway Basing as opposed to Home Basing is because it is easier and cheaper than Home Basing for the company, so it would be easier to convince them to switch to Gateway Basing, than it would be to convince them to switch to Home Basing. And, Gateway Basing would be a LOT better than what we have now...for one thing: No more imputed income!!!

 

And with Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, KAL, JAL, ANA, Asiana, NCA, EVA, China Eastern, China Southern, FlyDubai, and a host of other airlines in Asia, and elsewhere.

Current Max Base Pay in China:
ERJ-145 Captains: $15.5/month, with company paid upgrade to small Airbus captain after 1 year.

ERJ-190 Captains: $21.5/month, with company paid upgrade to small Airbus captain after 1 year.3

Small Airbus Captains: $22.5/month.

For the first time that I have heard, China is now hiring expat FOs...the job I saw was for 737 FOs (now there are two companies looking for FOs).

Other open DEC (Direct Entry Captain) Positions in both Taiwan and mainland China:
-8 (the turboprop), A320/340/330, MD-80, C-130, B737/747/757/767/777/787

Just saw that FlyDubai has a recruiting session in PHX....have never seen that, so they must be getting more desperate for pilots.

And, saw some more FO jobs in Asia and Africa, also.

Also, there are LOTS of bizjet jobs in Asia...I was told I could be a DEC on a very nice brand new large bizjet...with no time in type, in Asia.

 

New thread for non-hiring info in the Charter section:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ch...ml#post1674563

Sorry...didn't see that a thread already existed...asked the Mods to close the thread I started.

 

Talked to a Capt a while back: His neighbor is convinced he is a CIA spy or an operative for some other agency...his schedule and stories are way too far out for him to be anything less!

 

In 2001, a J-41 FO cost Trans States about $25K for training.

 

LOL...only reason FlyDubai is in PHX is to recruit pilots that are okay with the heat in PHX and the newbie may think living in the Arabian Peninsula will be the same as in PHX area!!

 

Exactly right atpcliff, the guys here that have left seat boeing glass 121 PIC time can be making 20K/month easy at a number of carriers. Once some of these foreign companies open US pilot bases (inevitable) the floodgates will really open. Connecting 2 major cities with a 767/777/787 three times a month making 20K/month!?......sounds like the perfect job to fund my early retirement.

~Slim