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Old 07-04-2014 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by captainv
I guess 777 rumors have gotten too old for the rumor-mongers. 737 is the freshest rumor of a new fleet type, FWIW. I guess perhaps for DHL and apparently some suits from the "new" Eastern were in the school house. As with anything, believe it when you see our name on the airplane. 737 pays 76% of 747 pay rates.
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Old 07-04-2014 | 12:50 PM
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But seriously, gooda ruck to Atlas if the 737 thing ever happens. The $97/hr second year pay on the 747 is a strong draw to Atlas, but everything below that (even the 767) isn't really a great deal.
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Old 07-04-2014 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
But seriously, gooda ruck to Atlas if the 737 thing ever happens. The $97/hr second year pay on the 747 is a strong draw to Atlas, but everything below that (even the 767) isn't really a great deal.
$6000 a month minus the imputed income tax is an insult to fly a 747.
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Old 07-04-2014 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by f10a
$6000 a month minus the imputed income tax is an insult to fly a 747.
Oh, I never said it was great. Just better than most other places if Delta/United/AA aren't blowing up your phone. I'm pretty sure Atlas has been counting on that for some time.

But, get down to new hires making 84% or less of that pay, and other non-Legacy options start looking better (even just staying put at a regional makes sense).
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Old 07-04-2014 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
But seriously, gooda ruck to Atlas if the 737 thing ever happens. The $97/hr second year pay on the 747 is a strong draw to Atlas, but everything below that (even the 767) isn't really a great deal.
Coming in and flying the 737 as an FO would mean that we'd start attracting guys who would be starting at a regional but decide to get some 737 time instead. Just an opinion... They won't be able to get any new types on property if they keep losing us faster than they can train us which is what has happened so far this year.
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Old 07-05-2014 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Coming in and flying the 737 as an FO would mean that we'd start attracting guys who would be starting at a regional but decide to get some 737 time instead. Just an opinion... They won't be able to get any new types on property if they keep losing us faster than they can train us which is what has happened so far this year.
Atlas is now the fat girl at the dance that no one wants to ask out. Atlas had it's 15 minutes of fame, it's now over, and they're in denial. They have a decision to make in Purchase, either turn this place into a revolving door flight school where young kids go to get Boeing type ratings; or, pay to play with the big boys. Simple as that.
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Old 07-05-2014 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8 Driver
...or, pay to play with the big boys. Simple as that.
I'd like what's behind door number two please Monty.
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Old 07-05-2014 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TimmyR
I'd like what's behind door number two please Monty.
Me too... Changing jobs sucks.
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Old 07-05-2014 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8 Driver
either turn this place into a revolving door flight school where young kids go to get Boeing type ratings; or, pay to play with the big boys. Simple as that.
They've said to our faces they are totally unconcerned with attrition. Time will tell.
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Old 07-05-2014 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Coming in and flying the 737 as an FO would mean that we'd start attracting guys who would be starting at a regional but decide to get some 737 time instead. Just an opinion... They won't be able to get any new types on property if they keep losing us faster than they can train us which is what has happened so far this year.
Yep, and it makes me wonder about second-year 737 pay. First year pay for all equipment is currently $77.27/hr across the board, but doing the math, second year 737 pay would be... $73.68/hr?

Someone didn't think that one through.

Ah well, enough rumor-mongering. When are we getting the 787s again?
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