Atlas Air Hiring
09-04-2014, 02:55 AM
#9431
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Gateway they airline u from gateway to wherever they want u to go, not necessarily to your base. I am jfk 747. This trip I was airlines my first day of work. Usually it is last day off. I usually get home 1 day early...sometimes 2 days early, sometimes lay day of work.
U can also airline alternate travel. That is when u r airlined NOT to from your gateway. Like u want to visit mom, so airline they'd instead of gateway. They will approve it depending on cost and other factors.
All travel same if reserve out line. Dint really have reserve pilots...will probably get complete trip before reserve period starts starts starts.
Pm me if u want.
U can also airline alternate travel. That is when u r airlined NOT to from your gateway. Like u want to visit mom, so airline they'd instead of gateway. They will approve it depending on cost and other factors.
All travel same if reserve out line. Dint really have reserve pilots...will probably get complete trip before reserve period starts starts starts.
Pm me if u want.
09-04-2014, 06:25 AM
#9432
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Position: KC-135/B747 Pilot
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Atlas Air Hiring
Just alternate traveled for the first time yesterday so I can vouch for that. Instead of flying me home, they are flying me to a fly - in I wanted to go to because it was basically the same price for the ticket. it should also take the imputed income out of the scenario 
09-04-2014, 06:32 AM
#9433
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Position: 747
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Originally Posted by tankerdude
Just alternate traveled for the first time yesterday so I can vouch for that. Instead of flying me home, they are flying me to a fly - in I wanted to go to because it was basically the same price for the ticket. it should also take the imputed income out of the scenario
If you're based in ANC and your gateway is ATL... You can go from HNL to ANC, ATL to ANC, or anywhere else to ANC you're liable for imputed. Now if you went ATL to Somewhere other than ANC... No imputed.
Same holds true for going home... If they bought you ticket from your base to anywhere... Imputed.
09-04-2014, 08:01 AM
#9434
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Atlas Air Hiring
Not sure about that. The imputed income letter states that you are only liable for travel between your gateway and base. no combination thereafter. I traveled home hnl - atl and lhr - atl with no imputed and they tag me for everything. Just like if you jumpseat out of your base and get a ticket home after that. that gets you out of the imputed income arena as you are not going between your gateway and base.
09-04-2014, 09:21 AM
#9437
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Position: Ex USAF, ex-ATA , currently Atlas Air 747 CA
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By contract the company has you for 17 workdays. If the first of those days or the last of those days has you working (operating as opposed to positioning) then you'll need to Gateway on a day off to get there in in time or get home after the trip is done. Mostly, it depends on where you live as to how often that happens. I live in the hinterlands of northwest Montana so I do it often. If you live near a major airport it will happen less often. The key is to see when your trip begins Z time and then work backwards to figure that out.
09-04-2014, 01:18 PM
#9438
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Guys, I am not so sure why this is any different than a guy that jumpseats to work for a Regional or a Major airline...commuting days do not count in your commitment to the company. (Of course, there are several airlines like Omni, Southern, etc that are "home-based" where the minute you leave home, you are on Day 1 vs like at Atlas we may be on Day 0).
I get that it may even be two days before an assignment, but that is a choice in some cases of where you live and where you are based. Being a new guy of course complicates it because you don't have the seniority to hold a closer base, but for most guys that have been here even a year or so, Day 0 commutes are self-induced by way of base selection, and your Gateway Airport location.
I get that it may even be two days before an assignment, but that is a choice in some cases of where you live and where you are based. Being a new guy of course complicates it because you don't have the seniority to hold a closer base, but for most guys that have been here even a year or so, Day 0 commutes are self-induced by way of base selection, and your Gateway Airport location.
09-04-2014, 02:09 PM
#9439
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Originally Posted by 744driver
Guys, I am not so sure why this is any different than a guy that jumpseats to work for a Regional or a Major airline...commuting days do not count in your commitment to the company. (Of course, there are several airlines like Omni, Southern, etc that are "home-based" where the minute you leave home, you are on Day 1 vs like at Atlas we may be on Day 0).
I get that it may even be two days before an assignment, but that is a choice in some cases of where you live and where you are based. Being a new guy of course complicates it because you don't have the seniority to hold a closer base, but for most guys that have been here even a year or so, Day 0 commutes are self-induced by way of base selection, and your Gateway Airport location.
I get that it may even be two days before an assignment, but that is a choice in some cases of where you live and where you are based. Being a new guy of course complicates it because you don't have the seniority to hold a closer base, but for most guys that have been here even a year or so, Day 0 commutes are self-induced by way of base selection, and your Gateway Airport location.
09-04-2014, 02:41 PM
#9440
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Originally Posted by 744driver
Guys, I am not so sure why this is any different than a guy that jumpseats to work for a Regional or a Major airline...commuting days do not count in your commitment to the company. (Of course, there are several airlines like Omni, Southern, etc that are "home-based" where the minute you leave home, you are on Day 1 vs like at Atlas we may be on Day 0).
I get that it may even be two days before an assignment, but that is a choice in some cases of where you live and where you are based. Being a new guy of course complicates it because you don't have the seniority to hold a closer base, but for most guys that have been here even a year or so, Day 0 commutes are self-induced by way of base selection, and your Gateway Airport location.
I get that it may even be two days before an assignment, but that is a choice in some cases of where you live and where you are based. Being a new guy of course complicates it because you don't have the seniority to hold a closer base, but for most guys that have been here even a year or so, Day 0 commutes are self-induced by way of base selection, and your Gateway Airport location.
When, in a previous life, I was commuting the only requirement was to show up rested by check in. Which I did religiously.
Here, since they buy you a ticket they FORCE you to rest (even longer than if they DH you in the middle of a trip), which could necessitate leaving the house a full day earlier than you would if you were jumpseating. So, in essence, they are controlling your off days and hours you need to arrive in your base prior.
This is a job. I show up to make them money. They own all of my time for the contacted work period. My side of the deal is I get paid and time off.
And people wonder why there's a mob with pitchforks and torches.
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