Atlas Air Hiring
09-06-2014, 08:12 PM
#9452
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: My toilet seat for now
Posts: 28
Originally Posted by Nate2046
I wish you the best of luck getting the job back that you hated so much! Make sure to mention all of the above points during your interview.
09-07-2014, 09:31 AM
#9456
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Ex USAF, ex-ATA , currently Atlas Air 747 CA
Posts: 324
Come on, folks. We're better than this. If the level of discussion on this thread is going to devolve down to fifth grade level then we ought to just move it over to Flightinfo.com and be done with it. That sort of sniping is expected there. Until about two months ago one could come here and rely on a rational discussion about the pros and cons of a career with Atlas. Lately, not so much.
09-07-2014, 08:50 PM
#9457
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 211
For those of you looking to get on here I'll share my experience so far. This is only my second month on the line.
First off... important info to have. Training pay as you've probably read is $1600 per month or $800 every two weeks. With insurance for wife and I the small paycheck came to around $575 and the one with a full month of per diem came to roughly $2300. It will vary based on your deductions and whatever insurance you pick. I was on training pay for three and a half months. Two full months training, almost a month waiting for OE, and then a couple weeks of OE. I could have started OE earlier, but was happy for the time off after being in Miami for 65 nights straight.
I'm ANC based and commute from ORD, so I lose a day off on the front side. It is what it is. The two trips that I've had end in ANC finished late Z time, but early local ANC. Therefore, I can get home early enough that I don't lose a day off on the back end.
I was able to bid this month for the first time and got a 60 day line. I got exactly the days off I needed in October. I have a 14 day trip, a four day trip, and a 16 day trip. I have stretches of 11 days off and 13 days off. I should credit 70 hours my first month if all goes as scheduled.
So far I've had layovers in nrt, icn, pvg, hkg, bah, rms, and cvg. IMO most of the hotels have been nice with icn, pvg, and hkg being super nice.
I enjoy the flying and don't mind the long trips, because I like having the long stretches of days off. I came from the regionals so I've done the 4 on 3 off while commuting every week, flying 4-6 legs a day and don't miss it one bit. This job isn't perfect and as you've read we could use some contract improvements. This job and lifestyle isn't for everyone. I know single guys that love it and guys that hate it. I have friends who are married with small kids that love it and make it work and those that hate it. At the end of the day it's up to the individual to decide if they will enjoy it or not. I don't have a crystal ball for the airline industry, so coming here will end up being either the worst career decision or the best one I've ever made. I'll know in about 25 years. The one thing I know for certain though is if you want to see the world and go to places you won't see with a passenger airline (some bad too / hostile areas are voluntary) you will have that opportunity here.
First off... important info to have. Training pay as you've probably read is $1600 per month or $800 every two weeks. With insurance for wife and I the small paycheck came to around $575 and the one with a full month of per diem came to roughly $2300. It will vary based on your deductions and whatever insurance you pick. I was on training pay for three and a half months. Two full months training, almost a month waiting for OE, and then a couple weeks of OE. I could have started OE earlier, but was happy for the time off after being in Miami for 65 nights straight.
I'm ANC based and commute from ORD, so I lose a day off on the front side. It is what it is. The two trips that I've had end in ANC finished late Z time, but early local ANC. Therefore, I can get home early enough that I don't lose a day off on the back end.
I was able to bid this month for the first time and got a 60 day line. I got exactly the days off I needed in October. I have a 14 day trip, a four day trip, and a 16 day trip. I have stretches of 11 days off and 13 days off. I should credit 70 hours my first month if all goes as scheduled.
So far I've had layovers in nrt, icn, pvg, hkg, bah, rms, and cvg. IMO most of the hotels have been nice with icn, pvg, and hkg being super nice.
I enjoy the flying and don't mind the long trips, because I like having the long stretches of days off. I came from the regionals so I've done the 4 on 3 off while commuting every week, flying 4-6 legs a day and don't miss it one bit. This job isn't perfect and as you've read we could use some contract improvements. This job and lifestyle isn't for everyone. I know single guys that love it and guys that hate it. I have friends who are married with small kids that love it and make it work and those that hate it. At the end of the day it's up to the individual to decide if they will enjoy it or not. I don't have a crystal ball for the airline industry, so coming here will end up being either the worst career decision or the best one I've ever made. I'll know in about 25 years. The one thing I know for certain though is if you want to see the world and go to places you won't see with a passenger airline (some bad too / hostile areas are voluntary) you will have that opportunity here.
09-08-2014, 12:26 PM
#9459
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,504
Originally Posted by GuardBummer
This makes me want to come to Atlas even more than before. I've been told internals are a huge bonus, yet I know no on at Atlas. How can I improve my chances? 2100TT, 1900ME, 400TPIC
09-08-2014, 01:21 PM
#9460
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: B767 CA
Posts: 1,100
Originally Posted by sandstorm
For those of you looking to get on here I'll share my experience so far. This is only my second month on the line.
First off... important info to have. Training pay as you've probably read is $1600 per month or $800 every two weeks. With insurance for wife and I the small paycheck came to around $575 and the one with a full month of per diem came to roughly $2300. It will vary based on your deductions and whatever insurance you pick. I was on training pay for three and a half months. Two full months training, almost a month waiting for OE, and then a couple weeks of OE. I could have started OE earlier, but was happy for the time off after being in Miami for 65 nights straight.
I'm ANC based and commute from ORD, so I lose a day off on the front side. It is what it is. The two trips that I've had end in ANC finished late Z time, but early local ANC. Therefore, I can get home early enough that I don't lose a day off on the back end.
I was able to bid this month for the first time and got a 60 day line. I got exactly the days off I needed in October. I have a 14 day trip, a four day trip, and a 16 day trip. I have stretches of 11 days off and 13 days off. I should credit 70 hours my first month if all goes as scheduled.
So far I've had layovers in nrt, icn, pvg, hkg, bah, rms, and cvg. IMO most of the hotels have been nice with icn, pvg, and hkg being super nice.
I enjoy the flying and don't mind the long trips, because I like having the long stretches of days off. I came from the regionals so I've done the 4 on 3 off while commuting every week, flying 4-6 legs a day and don't miss it one bit. This job isn't perfect and as you've read we could use some contract improvements. This job and lifestyle isn't for everyone. I know single guys that love it and guys that hate it. I have friends who are married with small kids that love it and make it work and those that hate it. At the end of the day it's up to the individual to decide if they will enjoy it or not. I don't have a crystal ball for the airline industry, so coming here will end up being either the worst career decision or the best one I've ever made. I'll know in about 25 years. The one thing I know for certain though is if you want to see the world and go to places you won't see with a passenger airline (some bad too / hostile areas are voluntary) you will have that opportunity here.
First off... important info to have. Training pay as you've probably read is $1600 per month or $800 every two weeks. With insurance for wife and I the small paycheck came to around $575 and the one with a full month of per diem came to roughly $2300. It will vary based on your deductions and whatever insurance you pick. I was on training pay for three and a half months. Two full months training, almost a month waiting for OE, and then a couple weeks of OE. I could have started OE earlier, but was happy for the time off after being in Miami for 65 nights straight.
I'm ANC based and commute from ORD, so I lose a day off on the front side. It is what it is. The two trips that I've had end in ANC finished late Z time, but early local ANC. Therefore, I can get home early enough that I don't lose a day off on the back end.
I was able to bid this month for the first time and got a 60 day line. I got exactly the days off I needed in October. I have a 14 day trip, a four day trip, and a 16 day trip. I have stretches of 11 days off and 13 days off. I should credit 70 hours my first month if all goes as scheduled.
So far I've had layovers in nrt, icn, pvg, hkg, bah, rms, and cvg. IMO most of the hotels have been nice with icn, pvg, and hkg being super nice.
I enjoy the flying and don't mind the long trips, because I like having the long stretches of days off. I came from the regionals so I've done the 4 on 3 off while commuting every week, flying 4-6 legs a day and don't miss it one bit. This job isn't perfect and as you've read we could use some contract improvements. This job and lifestyle isn't for everyone. I know single guys that love it and guys that hate it. I have friends who are married with small kids that love it and make it work and those that hate it. At the end of the day it's up to the individual to decide if they will enjoy it or not. I don't have a crystal ball for the airline industry, so coming here will end up being either the worst career decision or the best one I've ever made. I'll know in about 25 years. The one thing I know for certain though is if you want to see the world and go to places you won't see with a passenger airline (some bad too / hostile areas are voluntary) you will have that opportunity here.
Everyone that is applying needs to understand what sandstorm has posted above...there are a lot of good things about Atlas, but there are an equal number of gotchas here. So, buyer beware. Do your homework, and ask lots of questions.
I'll be the first to admit that the conversation has changed over the last few months. Heck, I was the first one to throw a hand grenade a few months ago when I changed my tune and stopped recommending Atlas as a career choice. I think that may have gone too far, but it sparked a conversation that guys felt free to call out the company on a lot of things...the Union trash-talking was taking that bit too far, in my opinion, but these threads have a way of drifting sometimes.
Good luck, and once again, ask lots of questions.
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