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Old 09-21-2014, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by crapgame
all three ,,,AA, DAL, and UAL have some sort of equipment and/or status lock up to 24 months. just sayin
Most of those equipment locks are in place after you choose to bid a certain position. Not after one is assigned to you by HR.
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Old 09-21-2014, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Elusive Napkin
Most of those equipment locks are in place after you choose to bid a certain position. Not after one is assigned to you by HR.
Correct. Most major airlines have either a 0 or 1 year seat lock as a newhire and then a 1-2 year seatlock for voluntary moves after that.
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Old 09-21-2014, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SVA402
Correct. Most major airlines have either a 0 or 1 year seat lock as a newhire and then a 1-2 year seatlock for voluntary moves after that.
Even worse when you come in fully typed and current, then get stuck on a 3 year lock. Very little cost to recover from our training program. The benefit is all on the company's side.

Now, I know what some will say: "You knew it coming in!" Yes we did, but what myself and my light twin cohorts didn't know was that they'd immediately hire 150+ guys behind us into the whale with no hope of getting sprung early for good behavior. Most of us involuntarily assigned to the 767 feel like we're just serving a sentence before our seniority can finally mean something at this airline. We're just stuck in limbo while junior pilots are filling vacancies in the bases of our choice.

But, at least they're paid more.
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Old 09-21-2014, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Elusive Napkin
Also, you aren't eligible for profit sharing until you have completed your first full CALENDAR year. Which means... A person hired in January of 2013 isn't eligible to begin receiving profit sharing until January of 2015. Then you accrue that year to be paid in 2016.
Sorry, this is incorrect. A NH in Jan 2013 will begin accruing profit sharing on Jan 31, 2014, which is paid in 2015, off the eleven eligible months of 2014.
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Old 09-21-2014, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by crapgame
all three ,,,AA, DAL, and UAL have some sort of equipment and/or status lock up to 24 months. just sayin
But not as crappy/restrictive as the one at Atlas. UAL's, the smaller/lower paid equipment paid pilot can bid up right away as long as there is a vacancie. THEN they are locked. As opposed to Atlas's and the way it's structure to basically screw a guy for almost THREE YEARS.

Just sayin'......
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Old 09-21-2014, 02:50 PM
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You're not listening. In a couple years, long before we get the new contract, seat locks won't matter, natural flow thru will take more than three years. It will take more than three years to be senior enough to move from the junior 767/757 to the 747. Why spend leverage on something that will fix itself?
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Old 09-21-2014, 04:10 PM
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Because if we can't get enough new hires to replace those leaving Atlas will start going downhill....could end up with capts being displaced to FO seats because of shrinking pilot force.

The pilot hiding situation is changing rapidly....
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Old 09-21-2014, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawn Boy
Hey, cropduster! Congratulations on passing the exam! I, too, have been given the opportunity to take the assesment. I'm in the middle of a trip so I haven't taken it yet. Is there any insight you could provide in regards to types of stuff asked? I have looked at pretty much every page in this thread, gathered up " Everything explained...", atp test questions, WX stuff, even NAT operation manuals, yadda yadda yadda. I just don't want to blow this thing! Any help you could provide would be über cool of you! Anyway, congrats again!
Use "CRM".. After all, they encouraged us to take our systems test with group (hint hint) effort.

Just don't serve the beer to your pilot friends until after the test.
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
The pilot hiding situation is changing rapidly....
More pilots need to hide so others can get hired elsewhere.
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Old 09-21-2014, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Elusive Napkin
This place is a regional airline with heavy jets. Complete with the whipsaw.
Precisely.

Applicants should take heed, but forget trying to get the senior guys to understand, care or sympathize.
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