Atlas Air Hiring
#9522
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Joined: Apr 2013
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From: 744 Capt
With all due respect, I'm not sure APC profiles are all that accurate or useful for anything other than getting a general idea about each company as you decide if you want to apply... For example, ExpressJet also has training pay of 2, $700 checks before taxes, no per diem during training (or any more pay for that matter til you start flying), along with a roommate in your hotel room (ERJ side) for training and a "uniform allowance" which you pay back (that's what they called it... Actually an interest free loan). Just some food for thought as we look to compare ourselves to others, the data on this site might not be the best source.
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Can someone explain the representation structure from the Giant pilot group. I am educated with the ALPA representation at our airline. I would like to know how your group works. What are the major issues that pilots seem to have?
I don't want to see dirty laundry aired, just the major concerns that the tenured pilots as well as the challenges new hires may still see and would like worked out.
Does your Negotiating Committee have marching orders from your Executive council that represents the interests of the pilots?
I don't want to see dirty laundry aired, just the major concerns that the tenured pilots as well as the challenges new hires may still see and would like worked out.
Does your Negotiating Committee have marching orders from your Executive council that represents the interests of the pilots?
The biggest thing you need to let go of is seniority: here it's only relevant when bidding a work footprint or training or vacation. the difference between line holder/reserve is how quickly they can call you out, but effectively we're all on reserve. That said, 767 DHL tends to stay intact.
Gateway/imputed income, low pay, crappy benefits, pathetic retirement contribution, no trip/bid pay protection, lower pay rate for training/vac/sick - you get the idea.
The other problem here is a lack of solidarity. A ridiculous number of us seem to have never read the CBA or be familiar with its basic elements. or, even worse, guys call scheduling/travel and cut their own deals to pick up extra flying or otherwise circumvent the CBA when it benefits them.
Company support is on a shoestring. Company relies on crews to go the extra mile to keep the metal moving, and too many of us do even when the basics aren't covered.
There's a laundry list of things we all want changed. ExCo elections are coming up later this fall, but it's the pilot group that will have to unite to get what we want.
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