Atlas Air Hiring
#9521
Can someone explain the representation structure from the Giant pilot group. I am educated with the ALPA representation at our airline. I would like to know how your group works. What are the major issues that pilots seem to have?
I don't want to see dirty laundry aired, just the major concerns that the tenured pilots as well as the challenges new hires may still see and would like worked out.
Does your Negotiating Committee have marching orders from your Executive council that represents the interests of the pilots?
I don't want to see dirty laundry aired, just the major concerns that the tenured pilots as well as the challenges new hires may still see and would like worked out.
Does your Negotiating Committee have marching orders from your Executive council that represents the interests of the pilots?
The biggest thing you need to let go of is seniority: here it's only relevant when bidding a work footprint or training or vacation. the difference between line holder/reserve is how quickly they can call you out, but effectively we're all on reserve. That said, 767 DHL tends to stay intact.
Gateway/imputed income, low pay, crappy benefits, pathetic retirement contribution, no trip/bid pay protection, lower pay rate for training/vac/sick - you get the idea.
The other problem here is a lack of solidarity. A ridiculous number of us seem to have never read the CBA or be familiar with its basic elements. or, even worse, guys call scheduling/travel and cut their own deals to pick up extra flying or otherwise circumvent the CBA when it benefits them.
Company support is on a shoestring. Company relies on crews to go the extra mile to keep the metal moving, and too many of us do even when the basics aren't covered.
There's a laundry list of things we all want changed. ExCo elections are coming up later this fall, but it's the pilot group that will have to unite to get what we want.
#9523
#9528
Dropping Trips
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Delta B
Posts: 17
Thanks Whale. I have mixed feelings about it. If only Atlas had called 3 years ago. Hell, 6 months ago! I REALLY wanted Atlas! You all are a great group of guys (from this thread and some good times @ the CVG Hilton). Thinking long-term though, I just can't say no to DL...
To the guys looking for stats:
Regional CA
4 and 2 year degrees (obtained concurrently)
8600+ TT
5700+ TPIC
No checkairman/management experience
No Military
Good luck to everyone! This thread has been invaluable to me over the last few years...
To the guys looking for stats:
Regional CA
4 and 2 year degrees (obtained concurrently)
8600+ TT
5700+ TPIC
No checkairman/management experience
No Military
Good luck to everyone! This thread has been invaluable to me over the last few years...
#9529
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 4
Respectfully...another correction to the training pay comments.
Alaska has training pay ($2k/mo til end of OE)...and they pay ZERO hotel and per diem during training! Dudes in SEA are hot-bunking and eating ramen noodles.
I'd love to give newbies full pay from day one, but IMO there are many many many more important issues to address.
Alaska has training pay ($2k/mo til end of OE)...and they pay ZERO hotel and per diem during training! Dudes in SEA are hot-bunking and eating ramen noodles.
I'd love to give newbies full pay from day one, but IMO there are many many many more important issues to address.
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