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Old 08-13-2016, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SebastianDesoto View Post
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I work in the Middle East. My employer requires a 90day notice period to leave or I owe them money. It's substantial. A days worth of salary for every day less than 90.
How flexible is atlas about class dates IF I should be lucky to get the interview then lucky enough to get hired?
Is it a pool system where I can pass a class date and still be eligible to accept another? Or is HR of the "take it or leave it" attitude?
If you get the interview, there will be a chance for you to ask the "powers that be" these very questions. I would think common sense wise if they like you they will work with you.
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Old 08-13-2016, 03:45 AM
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I'm cuurently in the pool waiting for a class date. I requested the 747 because the HSV base works for me. Now after hearing all this about the 747 training I'm more than a little concerned. So the recurrent pass rate is 98.6%...they actually mentioned that number in the interview (I guess word has gotten out about failure rates?). Although they didn't specifically say what the number was for.

I saw someone mention that the initial pass rate is much lower, with many busts on the type ride. Any idea what the percentage pass rate is for 747 vs 767? I'm ready to do the work, but I don't want to walk into a type ride I'm not prepared for either. Thanks guys, this thread is a tremendous resource.
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Old 08-13-2016, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies View Post
I'm ready to do the work, but I don't want to walk into a type ride I'm not prepared for either. Thanks guys, this thread is a tremendous resource.
If you do the work, YOUR pass rate will be 100%. That's pretty much true at any airline you work for. Really, that's the only statistic that matters in the end.
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Old 08-13-2016, 05:14 AM
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Training is no reason to turn down Atlas, but there are plenty of others.
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Old 08-13-2016, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies View Post
I'm cuurently in the pool waiting for a class date. I requested the 747 because the HSV base works for me. Now after hearing all this about the 747 training I'm more than a little concerned. So the recurrent pass rate is 98.6%...they actually mentioned that number in the interview (I guess word has gotten out about failure rates?). Although they didn't specifically say what the number was for.

I saw someone mention that the initial pass rate is much lower, with many busts on the type ride. Any idea what the percentage pass rate is for 747 vs 767? I'm ready to do the work, but I don't want to walk into a type ride I'm not prepared for either. Thanks guys, this thread is a tremendous resource.
Let's just say that since you are only a CRJ-200 F/O, you are at an extreme disadvantage from the get go. You have no experience with leading edge devices or flying jets with engines underneath the wings, with the requisite pitch changes with power. Plus it's a 747, a HUGE step up in complexity and size from a CRJ and you will have to know not only the jet at a Captain's knowledge level, but you will be grilled on international and oceanic crossing regs and procedures. Good luck, you'll need it coming from a commuter.
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Old 08-13-2016, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXative View Post
Let's just say that since you are only a CRJ-200 F/O, you are at an extreme disadvantage from the get go. You have no experience with leading edge devices or flying jets with engines underneath the wings, with the requisite pitch changes with power. Plus it's a 747, a HUGE step up in complexity and size from a CRJ and you will have to know not only the jet at a Captain's knowledge level, but you will be grilled on international and oceanic crossing regs and procedures. Good luck, you'll need it coming from a commuter.
I respectfully disagree with you on this. I recently left Atlas but I did work in the training center for a short time. My experiences with "RJ" guys was pretty good. They knew how to fly. They were used to a lot of hands on time with the airplane. Automation, FMC, etc. came second nature. Yes the 74 is a big jet. Just look at it like you are flying a normal sized jet on a small airport. They do not spoon feed you and you have to use a bit of motivation and curiosity to be successful. I saw guys struggle who I did not expect to see struggle (former test pilots, other big jet drivers) and ones ace it who I expected to see struggle (no jet experience). All in all, it boils down to work ethic and attitude.

Lastly, things are opening up industry wide. If you want to aquire good experience and have a blast doing it, go for it. It comes with a risk and plenty of abuse from the company once on the line though.
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Old 08-13-2016, 07:40 AM
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You do not have competitive times. I am not saying that you can't get hired, but you there are too many people right now with better resumes. Keep trying if it is what you really want, but don't pass a job to come here. Best wishes!
I've been told that I meet requirements, especially with my TPIC time at AMF. I know guys with zero jet or 121 time are getting calls. What would be considered competitive for Atlas?
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Old 08-13-2016, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXative View Post
Let's just say that since you are only a CRJ-200 F/O, you are at an extreme disadvantage from the get go. You have no experience with leading edge devices or flying jets with engines underneath the wings, with the requisite pitch changes with power. Plus it's a 747, a HUGE step up in complexity and size from a CRJ and you will have to know not only the jet at a Captain's knowledge level, but you will be grilled on international and oceanic crossing regs and procedures. Good luck, you'll need it coming from a commuter.
Negative Nancy strikes again! This info is wrong.

RJ guys do fine here. If you get the call and keep your nose to the grindstone, you'll have no more problems than pilots with from other background.

That said, there are better options for you than Atlas! Keep looking!!
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Old 08-13-2016, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dak in back View Post
I've been told that I meet requirements, especially with my TPIC time at AMF. I know guys with zero jet or 121 time are getting calls. What would be considered competitive for Atlas?
You should consider Eagle Jet and self funding a type on a Boeing or Airbus. That would prove to Atlas that you are trainable. As your 99/1900/Metro time from AMF is not competitive at all.
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Old 08-13-2016, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Dak in back View Post
I've been told that I meet requirements, especially with my TPIC time at AMF. I know guys with zero jet or 121 time are getting calls. What would be considered competitive for Atlas?
Yes, you meet the published requirements...but double your numbers and you would be in the vicinity of the lowest time pilot that was in my class. Many of us were in the 8-10k hour range. Most had significant PIC jet, 3-5k or more. Almost all had 121 PIC or military PIC time. The total time ranged from 5k to 17k or so.

I can't speak for other classes, but I'm guessing the numbers aren't far off, so I'd say those are "competitive mins".
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