Pm sent thanks for that link.

 

You do not have competitive times. I am not saying that you can't get hired, but you there are too many people right now with better resumes. Keep trying if it is what you really want, but don't pass a job to come here. Best wishes!

 

Something new to consider if you would like to come to Atlas...

Atlas has now taken control of hiring and interviews at Southern. At Southern theres a pool of about 40 pilots that there's no planned classes for. Atlas plans on pulling from that pool when needed to fill their new hire classes (after an "abbreviated" Atlas interview). Id assume once that pool is dry, Atlas could potentially keep just one pilot hiring pool. If and when Atlas starts hiring for 737/777 fleets, either due to growth or just attrition, you may be forced to accept a class that will have you working under an extremely substandard contract. For perspective, first year pay in either the 737/777 is only $61-$63/hr. Second year $65-$67. There is no business class travel, regardless of how long the flight is. There is no min-day guarantee. No trip protection, and no home basing or gateway basing on the 737.

I'm really hoping that if and when it comes down to this, people refusing a class at Southern will trigger Purchase to reconsider their thoughts towards pay-parity.

 

Good point Sandrich......we could see the good ole bait and switch hiring that desperate outfits often resort to. Roll the dice if you are feeling lucky��

 

There will be plenty of people that take the class under those conditions with the expectation, justified or not, that "things will get better". The relatively few people that turn down such classes will not convince Purchase to change their ways.

The best thing we can all do is follow the contract to the letter, follow the FOM to the letter, and do our job...and nothing more than we are required. Take the fuel load dispatch gives you...then if you hit min departure fuel before getting to the runway, taxi back and try again...if you are short at the redispatch point, off you go to the original destination and don't accept a redispatch. Check the catering thoroughly and don't go until it meets CBA requirements. Don't fly open time. Heed the advice of the ExCo, such as our recent issue with HKG.

If we all stick together, let our ExCo speak for us, be ready to strike(monetarily and emotionally) if we get released for self help, and fly the CBA/FOM exactly....we WILL come out victorious. To what degree, nobody can say...but victorious.

 

Right...so....back on to the hiring information.
Got a 90% on the written. Page 1099 still good.
Except I didn't get any NATs questions. And I got a lot of descent planning and time to station questions. Probably between 7-10 in all. Very easy, just do a few GS and mileage calculations before hand, rate of descent (all were based on 3 degree or 3000fpm). Also time to station type questions.

Next question:
I work in the Middle East. My employer requires a 90day notice period to leave or I owe them money. It's substantial. A days worth of salary for every day less than 90.
How flexible is atlas about class dates IF I should be lucky to get the interview then lucky enough to get hired?
Is it a pool system where I can pass a class date and still be eligible to accept another? Or is HR of the "take it or leave it" attitude?

 

If you get the interview, there will be a chance for you to ask the "powers that be" these very questions. I would think common sense wise if they like you they will work with you.

 

I'm cuurently in the pool waiting for a class date. I requested the 747 because the HSV base works for me. Now after hearing all this about the 747 training I'm more than a little concerned. So the recurrent pass rate is 98.6%...they actually mentioned that number in the interview (I guess word has gotten out about failure rates?). Although they didn't specifically say what the number was for.

I saw someone mention that the initial pass rate is much lower, with many busts on the type ride. Any idea what the percentage pass rate is for 747 vs 767? I'm ready to do the work, but I don't want to walk into a type ride I'm not prepared for either. Thanks guys, this thread is a tremendous resource.

 

If you do the work, YOUR pass rate will be 100%. That's pretty much true at any airline you work for. Really, that's the only statistic that matters in the end.

 

Training is no reason to turn down Atlas, but there are plenty of others.