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Puckhead 12-11-2014 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1781306)
Gentlemen,

It may be appropriate to write a polite email if you have been waiting for a call (after you took the technical evaluation test) for the face-to-face interview.

However, the interviews, and really the entire process takes a back seat to the very busy peak-season flying that Atlas 747s do. Please be patient and we have it on good authority that the entire process will resume with fervor when the baby new year is very young.

Good luck.

I was going to wait to see if I get the call in Jan. If not, I was going to email and make sure I didn't mess something up. Thoughts on that approach?

speedcheck 12-11-2014 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Puckhead (Post 1781362)
I was going to wait to see if I get the call in Jan. If not, I was going to email and make sure I didn't mess something up. Thoughts on that approach?

Don't feel bad puckhead. I took the test in Sept. As well still no call. I called to follow up early Dec. And the lady said she was surprised that they hadn't called me. She was going to resend my stuff to the HR manager to get phone screened. Still no call being patient for the right time. I have a clean record all around and two internal Recs. Don't know what else to do but just wait.:(

Stomper 12-11-2014 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1781306)
Gentlemen,

It may be appropriate to write a polite email if you have been waiting for a call (after you took the technical evaluation test) for the face-to-face interview.

However, the interviews, and really the entire process takes a back seat to the very busy peak-season flying that Atlas 747s do. Please be patient and we have it on good authority that the entire process will resume with fervor when the baby new year is very young.

Good luck.

I received the email invitation to take the technical evaluation test on Nov. 14th and then took the test on the 19th. Is it possible that scoring 100% on the test is a negative thing?
I have three internal recommendations but I have a background issue from 1999 that I had to disclose on the questionnaire so that could also be the issue.
I have also heard from another line pilot that it'll be early in the new year when the process ramps up again. Staying positive and hoping for a good outcome.
Thanks for the feedback!

millscd63 12-12-2014 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1780373)
Do you get the part that the Teamsters DON'T have pension plans that they run? To do what you envision would require it being done to ALL pension plans and require a re-write ERISA rules? For a pension plan where a fund gets the money directly from the company...plus and additional voluntary employee contribution above the agreed to amount...how would the government interject themself?

Talk about horrible timing! Congress just passed a rewrite of the ERISA rules that allow multiemployer pensions to cut benefits to current retirees. But that could never happen right?

Congress' No-Bailout Pension Plan Is No Solution for Retirees - 1

ATCsaidDoWhat 12-12-2014 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 1780719)
That's great... I want the Teamsters to have nothing to do with my retirement. Period. Their job is to negotiate what I get. Give me American Airlines's retirement plan. If we get any form of a pension or anything that is in any way attached to the Teamsters then I'll have to change jobs so that I can get a retirement.

I'm the son of a financial planner so I do know a little bit about it. My other parent was an airline pilot so I'm fully aware of what allowing others to "manage" your retirement leads to.

Your understanding of how a retirement (401K, Roth IRA, and emergency fund) should be managed lacks basic understanding of how it should work. When you're young (like me) the bulk of your money should be invested into equities like mutual funds which may do bad the next year but perform at around 12% over the course of time. As you get older you shift your money to lower risk investments such as bonds that don't crash with the market. If you really lost every thing in the Great Recession then you lost it because you weren't responsible enough to read a book on how to manage your retirement. If you were in your mid to late 50s you should've been almost exclusively in stuff like Bonds which wouldn't have hit you.

Please don't take my advice. Read a book. Talk to an expert. It's important enough to read given that people are naive enough to think that their best option is to let the Teamsters manage their retirement. Letting others manage your retirement will result in them robbing you blind just like what's happened everywhere else recently.

I have some better advice for you. Stop parrotting that standard line about how to invest during your career.

You want American Airlines retirement? Ask your airline parent how long it's taken American to get to the point where they are today.

While you're at it, go back, read the post and comprehend that the Teamsters DON'T HAVE RETIREMENT PLANS...there are plans that are negotiated that members are in...BUT THE TEAMSTERS DON'T RUN THEM OR HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THEM.

I won't apologize for the caps since it seems that you can't grasp the point.

You might want to also ask your financial planner dad how actuaries function in relation to a retirement plan. And what the recent drop in the cost of a barrel of crude is doing to the value of 401 (k)'s...

CandlerKid 12-12-2014 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1781666)
I have some better advice for you. Stop parrotting that standard line about how to invest during your career.

You want American Airlines retirement? Ask your airline parent how long it's taken American to get to the point where they are today.

I'll never understand this logic? How long does Atlas have to be in business before they pay their pilots what they're worth? Some of us here think that we are just as capable, valuable, and talented as any other pilots in the industry and should be compensated accordingly. Some of us clearly don't...

Whale Driver 12-12-2014 09:31 AM

I want nothing to do with anything that has TEAMSTERS and my MONEY on the same page!

captainv 12-12-2014 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat (Post 1781666)
And what the recent drop in the cost of a barrel of crude is doing to the value of 401 (k)'s...

Lowering the average cost paid per share? That's a great thing, unless you're cashing out today.

How about we let the new ExCo poll the group as to what they want?

tuktukdriver 12-12-2014 04:12 PM

Question for the applicants:
When you send in your updated resume/PAQ, do you insert a formal cover letter in the body of the email? Or just a little note saying how glad you'd be to get a call, etc...or nothing at all? I usually include a little email explaining why i sent the update (flight time, new license, etc..) ? Thanks

2xAGM114 12-12-2014 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by tuktukdriver (Post 1782050)
Question for the applicants:
When you send in your updated resume/PAQ, do you insert a formal cover letter in the body of the email? Or just a little note saying how glad you'd be to get a call, etc...or nothing at all? I usually include a little email explaining why i sent the update (flight time, new license, etc..) ? Thanks

I did the same, but made the cover a separate document. I also wrote a quick description of what I was updating.

I'd update your stuff early and often. Sounds like HR is pretty swamped.


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