I assume and apparently so do you that she (I think she is a she) is in fact a line holder. And yes that is the only way to get sent home. Isnt it a shame that in a seniority based system that this is allowed. Maybe in our next contract we can fix that.

 

Technically, it doesn't matter if she's a lineholder or not. She could've been on R-1 or R-2 and was then assigned a pattern with a long weekend in CVG in between domestic runs. CBA just says more than 48 hours in base without an assignment. Would've been the same for JFK on those GEO/POS trips if they'd built a long sit in base in between flights.

Seniority works pretty well in CVG. If you're senior, you bid what you want, and for the most part it stays intact. JFK just doesn't have any lines to bid. Seniority counts for bidding your footprint, and that's about it. The DHL stuff just doesn't require many changes (normally). Some of the 747 guys say their patterns change every time they land. That said, I would love to get bid or trip pay protection. That would reassert seniority in a big way.

 

What type of experience are people getting into Atlas with?

Realistically?

Cheers !

 

Last trip: ground from home to MKE.airline to MSP.ground to FAR.operate to Iceland.sched 24hrs in Iceland, but delays changed it to immediate airline flight to England. Kent for 2 days.operate top another airport in England...immediately airline to Madrid. 2 days. Operate to central Asia, then leg 2 to Riga. 1 night in Riga. Trip over.airline home from Riga.

Originally I was sched airline to HSV, deadhead to Germany, operate to AUH, operate to SHJ, then deadhead to HKG, ANC,ORD, then airline home. 9 day trip, then 9 days at home.

Next, 2 week+ trip: airline to TX, operate to central Asia....1 night there, operate to Germany, 1 night, operate to central Asia, 1 night.deadhead to Germany, then HSV...then sched over a week of R2 in HSV....but almost guarantee the R2 in HSV will change to sched flying before I get there....

 

on change 6 to my schedule and I am still 24+ hours from flying my first leg.

cheers

 

That's wild. How are the hotels & layovers? And do you guys keep all hotel points & frequent flyer miles for personal use?

 

Some guys are working too hard............

 

Honestly, I'm great with sitting R2...I'd trade ya if I wouldn't be imputed for it. Hopefully this whole issue will start getting fixed this year once you guys start moving to the whale (you guys are cool and all, but please leave... ).

 

Cliff, they limo'd you from MSP to FAR? I think I'd shoot myself.

 

MSP-FAR only about 3.5 hrs. Midwest wx caused all kinds of flight cancellations....it was crazy!

We keep airline and hotel points.most hotels don't get points as special rates for atlas. Most guys who gateway, or who are JFK based have some kind of airline status.