Is SIC Type Sufficient?

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07-11-2013 | 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Yup! FOs can now log PIC time on their legs as sole manipulator of controls because they have a PIC type. :D

Sorry ShyGuy, SIC time is still "like taking your sister to the prom".
I have thousands of hours as SIC, sadly it's all about when you were hired and how long you're stuck in the right seat.
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07-11-2013 | 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PeopleMover90

last two comments each got it partially right.

If you are employed by a 121 carrier before 7/31/13, already have an ATP certificate, yet an SIC type, you have until January 1st, 2016, to get your PIC. this is the only grandfathering the FAA put in.

Yours is even less right when you're looking at the details. It's about employment on July 31, not before. Don't necessarily need an ATP on that date either.

"d) Compliance with the requirements of this section is required by August 1, 2013. However, for those pilots who are employed as second in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the type rating requirement in paragraph (b) is not required until January 1, 2016."

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07-11-2013 | 11:32 AM

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I wasn't asking because of logging time. I was just curious what the company was planning to do if all of the FOs suddenly became illegal on Aug 1, 2013.

I'm glad we are grandfathered for a while. I guess in our next sim session we will get PIC types.

07-11-2013 | 11:37 AM

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I be that's what you'll do, Southern. A friend of mine at QX said that's what they did.

07-11-2013 | 11:43 AM

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Heh heh - ShyGuy fooled everyone!

(it was a joke, folks)

07-11-2013 | 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by biigD

Heh heh - ShyGuy fooled everyone!

(it was a joke, folks)

Yep... went right by them!

07-11-2013 | 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Yup! FOs can now log PIC time on their legs as sole manipulator of controls because they have a PIC type. :D

Not if you are not listed on the release as PIC and trained to be PIC.

07-11-2013 | 03:09 PM

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Not if you are not listed on the release as PIC and trained to be PIC.

And him, too...

07-11-2013 | 04:52 PM

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What if an airline has a new hire training class scheduled for August 2? Will those new hires be required to get PIC types? Or even more specific what if you're in training right now and your SIC check ride is scheduled for August 2?