Boeing CEO says they are going autonomous
02-02-2023, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Tesla has given up, acknowlding that there is no predictable timeline for developing an AI which is reliable enough for open-world safety functions. AI works much much better in an environment where all variables are quantified and controlled... ex factory assembly line.
I agree that it will happen eventually, but the timeline is pretty long for anything but short haul, small airframes for cargo. Boeing can't even launch an autonomous space capsule without the computer clock being off by 11 hours
I'm sure the CEO was simply tossing out drivel to churn stock valuation, for some purpose known to him but not us.
I agree that it will happen eventually, but the timeline is pretty long for anything but short haul, small airframes for cargo. Boeing can't even launch an autonomous space capsule without the computer clock being off by 11 hours
I'm sure the CEO was simply tossing out drivel to churn stock valuation, for some purpose known to him but not us.
02-02-2023, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakeaffect
How much exponential growth in technology have we seen in those 8 years? I’d say slight linear growth is more accurate.
02-02-2023, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
I don’t know. With respect to the original article in this thread and Boeing, if/when autonomous planes are flying people it won’t be thanks to Boeing. Boeing today is a company that can’t even get a new variant of a 777 certified, can’t add a refueling boom to a 767, and can’t re-engine a 737 without killing 346 people first. Boeing needs to focus on getting the basics right before they start venturing into this territory.
02-02-2023, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
Fact of the matter is they will try this. And then a day will come when 300 people get crushed into a fine red mist by an autonomous aircraft and that will be the end of that idea.
02-02-2023, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
It's surprising to me that so many pilots actually believe this nonsense. What has happened with the MAX? It was re-certified after Boeing took a financial hit and life goes on. The idea that a single event would put an end to potential huge increases in efficiency and profits is not in line with how capitalism (or any known economic system) functions. Something like actual AI piloted aircraft would be an incredible feat of technological achievement, and I'm not convinced we're close, but if the tech existed and worked most of the time, don't fool yourself into believing that an accident would be anything more than a momentary setback.
idk technology is so glitchy.
just look at all those “autonomous” Waymo cars in San Francisco getting stuck cuz they had a meltdown.
could you imagine being on a pilotless plane and all the airplanes using the same software that is bad just all of a sudden falling out of the sky.
Idk too much faith in Tech…that’s just me…
02-02-2023, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pixelflying
Anything beyond creating 737s is well beyond their capabilities and they're not even great at that.
One look at the new 737 max and you will loose all confidence in Boeing . If that’s the best they can do God help us .
02-02-2023, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by myrkridia
It's surprising to me that so many pilots actually believe this nonsense. What has happened with the MAX? It was re-certified after Boeing took a financial hit and life goes on. The idea that a single event would put an end to potential huge increases in efficiency and profits is not in line with how capitalism (or any known economic system) functions. Something like actual AI piloted aircraft would be an incredible feat of technological achievement, and I'm not convinced we're close, but if the tech existed and worked most of the time, don't fool yourself into believing that an accident would be anything more than a momentary setback.
02-02-2023, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cleared4appch
In an ideal world, you are correct. But what you seem to be ignoring is the human element. The passengers. The fear factor would skyrocket with passengers. After 9/11 many were fearful of flying. Industry was hit hard. That same thing will happen in this scenario with autonomous planes. But it will be worse. Far worse. And it’s safe to say it won’t just be one crash. There will be several. It will be very difficult to convince passengers that it’s safe to get back on those things. I can just see this wrecking the aviation industry beyond any hope of repair. I sure as heck won’t be getting on an autonomous airplane.
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