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AF2AL 06-21-2022 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3444758)
Has Breeze management considered taking a radical approach? Like maybe increase pay and provide industry standard work rules?

Pay can't be increased until the ALPA vote is over but you can bet there will be a significant increase as long as the union isn't voted in. If they are voted in, expect years of back and forth negotiation while pay remains frozen where it is today.

There are times when a union is necessary, this however, is not it.

AF2AL 06-21-2022 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3445184)
correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t breeze only have 1 (one) Bombardiairbus cs100/airbus220 in operation right now?

if so…. I’m guessing you’ll be on the ERJ if you join the breezyboi ranks.

Currently 6 on property with number 7 arriving soon

MinRest 06-21-2022 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by AF2AL (Post 3445238)
Pay can't be increased until the ALPA vote is over but you can bet there will be a significant increase as long as the union isn't voted in. If they are voted in, expect years of back and forth negotiation while pay remains frozen where it is today.

There are times when a union is necessary, this however, is not it.

That's cute. They are hiring Australians to avoid paying you. Try again.

Swapapotamoose 06-21-2022 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by AF2AL (Post 3445238)
Pay can't be increased until the ALPA vote is over but you can bet there will be a significant increase as long as the union isn't voted in. If they are voted in, expect years of back and forth negotiation while pay remains frozen where it is today.

There are times when a union is necessary, this however, is not it.

Breeze doesn’t have the luxury of drawn out negotiations. They will negotiate in record time just like the union drive was. If pilots didn’t have the leverage they have now, breeze would undoubtedly be paying breezybois less than regionals. Breeze isn’t going to raise the pay unless they have to and right now they’re getting ppl through the door no problem. They’re counting on an economic down turn to happen so they can have the upper hand again. WAKE UP man!

sailingfun 06-21-2022 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by AF2AL (Post 3445238)
Pay can't be increased until the ALPA vote is over but you can bet there will be a significant increase as long as the union isn't voted in. If they are voted in, expect years of back and forth negotiation while pay remains frozen where it is today.

There are times when a union is necessary, this however, is not it.

If pay and work rules stay where they are the airlines lifespan is probably measured in months not years.

bonvoyage 06-21-2022 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by AF2AL (Post 3445238)
Pay can't be increased until the ALPA vote is over but you can bet there will be a significant increase as long as the union isn't voted in. If they are voted in, expect years of back and forth negotiation while pay remains frozen where it is today.

There are times when a union is necessary, this however, is not it.

Let me guess, you’ve really fell for that anti-union campaign spill from David and the rest of management? They told you how you should just “give them another year to make things right”? There won’t be years of back and forth. They can’t afford it. They know that. Worst case scenario is this place sinks or they propose a sell out to another company; you better hope you have union protection if that happens. You have nothing to lose. Why would management push so hard against a union? Because they want to drag out your low pay and no work rules as close to that IPO date as possible. Get your head out of the sandbox

AmeriTiger 06-21-2022 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by fastneat (Post 3445075)
Not true.

My class still has 90% of us still here, and we started last summer.

Other classes around that time? Maybe 30-40% attrition.



Sorry for interrupting this fascinating and compelling discussion, but I have a question for any of you who are familiar with the hiring process. About a month ago, I completed my on-demand interview and submitted my logbook. I'm not sure if they were too busy to respond, or if I was simply cut off without a TBNT. Is this the norm?
Thanks!

shortspatula 06-21-2022 10:22 PM

Are you a direct entry Captain A220, because they’ve stopped hiring for that. Otherwise they are pretty quick about getting back to you.

AmeriTiger 06-21-2022 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by shortspatula (Post 3445364)
Are you a direct entry Captain A220, because they’ve stopped hiring for that. Otherwise they are pretty quick about getting back to you.


Hi! Yes, I applied for DEC 220. I think your reply says it all…. :( Thanks! Safe flights!

UnableVNAVPTH 06-22-2022 01:37 AM

If your company hires a union busting law firm, you’re in need of representation.


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